Windows 8 Consumer Preview Thread

TAC4U said:
This is EXACTLY the problem. Rather than learn how it works you simply complain about it. Opening the Control Panel is a case of right-clicking the start corner and selecting it; or left clicking and selecting it. And in fact you can now more quickly access Device Manager, Power Options, Disk Management, Network Connections, Command Prompt... actually, you can use it yourself. I'm fed up of explaining to people who are too lazy or incompetent to find out themselves.

Try to actually use it before claiming that the sky is falling.
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You need to chill out, I don't like it, simple as that, it is bad for mouse use and I am not the only one who thinks that, for touch screen it's probably the best thing coming out, but I have no intention of using a touch screen for my desktop, it would look disgusting with all finger smears over it in 5 minutes of using it, it is counter productive imo for mouse use, everything is hidden behind pop ups
 
I don't think theres a lot of difference in the number of clicks to get to places.

The places just aren't where they've been for the last 17 yrs

Its not finished software. But isn't that the point of the release.
 
hyperst said:
You need to chill out, I don't like it, simple as that, it is bad for mouse use and I am not the only one who thinks that, for touch screen it's probably the best thing coming out, but I have no intention of using a touch screen for my desktop, it would look disgusting with all finger smears over it in 5 minutes of using it, it is counter productive imo for mouse use, everything is hidden behind pop ups
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Agree. For modern tablets it's fine. For something to use at work or at home I wouldn't touch it.



M.
 
One thing i noticed is that MS have been moving away from context menus and drop down menus for some times. Not sure what they have against them. I always found context menus and drop down menus to be the best ui element. I wonder how long before MS bring out a single button mouse for their apple clone OS aka Blocks 8 (tm)

Also the whole argument about shutdown was incorrect. People were saying that it is the same amount of clicks to shut down the pc and that is not true.

on windows 7, it takes two clicks, start and shutdown and thats it. In windows 8, you have to log out and then move that annoying screen and then shut down. Which is obviously more clicks. Not including making shortcuts and other things.
 
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OspreyO said:
I don't think theres a lot of difference in the number of clicks to get to places.

The places just aren't where they've been for the last 17 yrs

Its not finished software. But isn't that the point of the release.
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I doubt much will change from now to the final release. Ive seen MS release beta before and by the time they get to that point they refuse to make any big changes. What you see now is pretty much what they are going to release as the final version. Apart from the metro (metro like trains?) apps. (apps like applications?) cause apparently they are not finished. But i am skeptical about how much better they will get, they looked finished to me.
 
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hyperst said:
I never gave it a lot of time, tbh, it just seemed so anti mouse to me personally, how quick can you get to control panel in 8? it takes me less than a second in 7(using the mouse).
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pin control panel to metro start screen
1 click take you to desktop control panel :)

here is how to do so browse all apps search for control panel right click it
app bar will show up select pin to start screen done :)
 
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Still seems too geared to touch rather than mouse.

What makes me laugh is there is still a Command DOS prompt available. So MS must think there is still a demand for it or its required or they would have scrapped it totally. Despite all your fancy shenanigans and windows and smooth transitions Windows 8 still has a DOS emulator built in.

:)
 
varkanoid said:
Still seems too geared to touch rather than mouse.

What makes me laugh is there is still a Command DOS prompt available. So MS must think there is still a demand for it or its required or they would have scrapped it totally. Despite all your fancy shenanigans and windows and smooth transitions Windows 8 still has a DOS emulator built in.

:)
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DOS is one of the most important things to troubleshoot. It's also very useful for scripting / scheduled tasks. IPCONFIG and PING are two of the most useful tools available in Windows so they just can't change it.

Like everything else. Sales will dictate whether this goes any furhter - corporate sales on this are going to be a big factor when it comes to developing Windows 9.



M.
 
Simple question - I set google advanced search as my home page and can't seem to see a "thing to click on" to go back to IE home? Advice please? Thanks.
 
Spent a while trying to migrate the main bits of my 7 install over, and after all that, BF3 felt really laggy and slow compared to win 7. I was kinda hoping for magically better performance?
 
willhub said:
I'll be transferring to Windows 8 as my main OS shortly, it's much faster, just need to get some uni work done first :p
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I disagree its "much faster" than windows 7. I used both, and both seem to operate at similar response times on my SSD. Nothing to make me format windows 7 and stick on 8.

For my development work so far, windows 7 is great and I don't see much improvement from windows 8.

I'm still testing things out on windows 8, but its deffo not like the best thing ever invented, like half the people make it.
 
djkav said:
I disagree its "much faster" than windows 7. I used both, and both seem to operate at similar response times on my SSD. Nothing to make me format windows 7 and stick on 8.

For my development work so far, windows 7 is great and I don't see much improvement from windows 8.

I'm still testing things out on windows 8, but its deffo not like the best thing ever invented, like half the people make it.
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One thing I have noticed with Windows 8 after using it for a week now is it uses less ram than what I was using on Windows 7 with the same things open. On desktops RAM doesn't really matter nowadays, But it certainly helps if you've only got 2-4gb ram.

Things don't slow down as much as they were on Windows 7 in my opinion, Still zipping along a week later happily.

Now onto the actual interface, I don't think I've seen Metro all that much maybe about 10times since installing. I installed the normal msn now so I don't have to put up with the stupid messaging app no longer & most of the live tiles seem completely pointless or stop working (beta I know). Plus full screen programs on a desktop is backwards too, I want to be able to move/resize in anyway I choose & with Metro there is no option.

I still find hovering the mouse on the bottom left cumbersome, sometimes it doesn't want to pop up, sometimes it does & then disappears when I go to click it. I don't know how hard it would have been just to put a little button on the taskbar, There is already a little gap between the first icon & taskbar anyway!

I don't like to use the keyboard much, most of my PC time is spent just using the mouse with the odd keyboard interaction every now & again. So these keyboard short cuts are not to my taste, Each to their own though.

It definitely favours the touch screen more than mouse interaction.
 
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djkav said:
I disagree its "much faster" than windows 7. I used both, and both seem to operate at similar response times on my SSD. Nothing to make me format windows 7 and stick on 8.

For my development work so far, windows 7 is great and I don't see much improvement from windows 8.

I'm still testing things out on windows 8, but its deffo not like the best thing ever invented, like half the people make it.
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i have normal HDD and i dual boot windows 7 and windows 8
windows 8 much faster than windows 7
and if metro apps , new start screen, marketplace, new lock screen with picture password, using you windows live account to log in to your desk, syncing your setting in multiple pc's , making the whole windows 7 as an app in windows 8, unified user experience between windows 8, xbox, windows phone and office and making the OS with two interfaces for desktop and touch screen users if all that is not much improvement i don't know what else is much improvement :D
 
The point of XBox is? The point of Windows Phone if you've not got one is?

It's not two desktops as one Desktop is unusable as a Desktop (i.e. no Start Menu) and every time you hit start it flips between the two. I'd rather you had the choice really. Metro if you want it or standard desktop if you prefer that.

The new lock screen is interesting - but still a gimic - like any other lock screen. The synching is nice - Marketplace is just a phone rip-off and kinda pointless as I have my apps already bought but I can see the point of it for new users (and again it's perfect for phone / tablet users). The majority, if not all, of the features you've mentioned are completley redundant if you're on a work network.

Dual booting is not a fair comparison really you need two identical systems to test. I've noticed nothing on my tablet that I rebuilt for it in terms of boot time (maybe a couple of seconds but I'd have to properly time it).




M.
 
varkanoid said:
Still seems too geared to touch rather than mouse.

What makes me laugh is there is still a Command DOS prompt available. So MS must think there is still a demand for it or its required or they would have scrapped it totally. Despite all your fancy shenanigans and windows and smooth transitions Windows 8 still has a DOS emulator built in.

:)
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...dude, the CLI is essential for advanced operations on any OS
 
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