Windows 8 Consumer Preview Thread

Yes it is, but they're incremental improvements.

If it's going to make such a significant difference to the performance of someone's machine by upgrading to Windows 8, then I'd be telling them they need to look at upgrading their hardware first.
 
McBain said:
Most of the raging i've seen is based on the Metro UI.
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Maybe someone will be able to remove the metro ui?. It reminds me of the xbox360 interface. It kind of feels ok and i can just about tolerate it on the 360 platform but i don't like it for the desktop/pc environmemt. I just don't like it, it's a no buy for me straight away. But if i do purchase or aquire a small tablet/mobile device then maybe yeah.
 
ChileanLlama said:
Yes it is, but they're incremental improvements.

If it's going to make such a significant difference to the performance of someone's machine by upgrading to Windows 8, then I'd be telling them they need to look at upgrading their hardware first.
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Well yeah, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken ****. :p
 
Obviously MS want to make their app store work - they are charging 30% on all apps sold so there's big money there. The only thing that will bring the apps and the money in is the number of users using Windows 8. now they might do OK with tablets and the surface will be popular but I'm not sure the Windows phone will be that popular given how popular Android devices are. So, get as many PCs on Windows 8 and there's the user base to sell the the app makers and sit and wait for the money to roll in - if the PC people buy apps. That's why it is going to be so cheap this time round for an upgrade.
 
McBain said:
I like the dual monitor improvements, couple of other bits and bobs.
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Are you using nVidia Surround? Would be interested to know how well that is working...

McBain said:
Well yeah, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken ****. :p
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Nice one. LOL.

prescott28 said:
Obviously MS want to make their app store work - they are charging 30% on all apps sold so there's big money there. The only thing that will bring the apps and the money in is the number of users using Windows 8. now they might do OK with tablets and the surface will be popular but I'm not sure the Windows phone will be that popular given how popular Android devices are. So, get as many PCs on Windows 8 and there's the user base to sell the the app makers and sit and wait for the money to roll in - if the PC people buy apps. That's why it is going to be so cheap this time round for an upgrade.
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Yep, and they don't want to have the expense of managing separate codebases. It took them a lot longer than they wanted to converge Win9x and NT.
 
ChileanLlama said:
Are you using nVidia Surround? Would be interested to know how well that is working...
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I'm not unfortunately, just dual monitors, but I like the way there's multiple task bars, even the choice for multiple wallpapers is quite nice. This is all doable on 7 of course, via an app but it's nice to have it built into the OS.
 
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thought id try out a hacked up version with the metro apps removed :)
2gb is impressive i think when the default is about 8gb
 
McBain said:
Something else i've been wondering about, from a gaming perspective, what are the overheads, if any, of the Metro UI?
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Negligible. Don't forget, this thing runs nicely on weedy tablets.

prescott28 said:
Obviously MS want to make their app store work - they are charging 30% on all apps sold so there's big money there. The only thing that will bring the apps and the money in is the number of users using Windows 8. now they might do OK with tablets and the surface will be popular but I'm not sure the Windows phone will be that popular given how popular Android devices are. So, get as many PCs on Windows 8 and there's the user base to sell the the app makers and sit and wait for the money to roll in - if the PC people buy apps. That's why it is going to be so cheap this time round for an upgrade.
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I don't think the Windows Store will be quite the cash cow people imagine. Microsoft might be taking a 30% cut, but apps don't host themselves and 30% of Free is nothing. Also, once the app earns over a certain amount, the charge drops to 20%.

I'm not saying Microsoft won't make any money from them, but they certainly won't be pushing their luck. They want to maximize its attractiveness to both developers and consumers for the health of the platform. Turning a massive profit on the store is not the priority.
 
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keep in mind the 30% cut is only what big publishers would have expected to pay for packaging, distributors, transport and retail/etailers cut etc anyway so actual $$ in the publisher/dev pocket is likely to be unchanged or possibly more than if they sell as normal through Steam/Amazon/OCUK/Game/Scan/PC World etc.
 
prescott28 said:
ho did you manage that? I could juts do with less psace from windows on my 60GB SSD
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component removed are

Accessibility
Character Map
Games-Game Explorer
Speech Support
Welcome Center
Windows Sidebar and Gadgets
Wordpad
All Languages except us eng
Screensavers
Shell event sounds
Sound Recorder
Windows Media Codecs
Windows Media Player
Windows Firewall
Windows Mail
BitLocker Drive Encryption
Component Cache (winsxs)
Manual Install (Setup.exe)
Natural Language
Parental Controls
Security Center
System Restore
Tablet PC
Windows Defender
Windows Easy Transfer
Windows SAT (Performance Index)
Zip Folder
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That probably has a lot to do with it lol.
 
Well, one man's bloat is another man's feature I suppose. There are a couple of core Windows components in that list though.

It would be interesting to see if a gaming distro of Linux appears if Valve make good on their "hedging" strategy. There's no point paying for Windows if you're going to disable half of it and just use it as a springboard for games. Linux would suit a lot of gamers if the support was there.
 
theheyes said:
Well, one man's bloat is another man's feature I suppose. There are a couple of core Windows components in that list though.

It would be interesting to see if a gaming distro of Linux appears if Valve make good on their "hedging" strategy. There's no point paying for Windows if you're going to disable half of it and just use it as a springboard for games. Linux would suit a lot of gamers if the support was there.
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thats what most my gamer friends have been doing since as long as i can remember, it also makes a bit of sense having a pc for gaming and one for light stuff, yknow one that doesnt have 2 great big gfx cards in it :) you have a super cut down version of windows on the gaming one and you keep it clean, install ur junk on the other
 
For me, if the gaming stuff came on Linux I think I would now switch. Most Linux these days is easy enough to use and configure and there's plenty of support for the non-gaming stuff I do. If Steam does manage anything then I might be leaving Windows for good.
 
theheyes said:
Well, one man's bloat is another man's feature I suppose. There are a couple of core Windows components in that list though.

It would be interesting to see if a gaming distro of Linux appears if Valve make good on their "hedging" strategy. There's no point paying for Windows if you're going to disable half of it and just use it as a springboard for games. Linux would suit a lot of gamers if the support was there.
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I'd happily pay double for Windows to have all the non-gaming **** cut out and just have the OS highly tuned for DirectX.

That and web-browsing is about all I do on my PC.
 
Having a slight problem with IE10.

It runs fine both from being launched in Metro, and the Desktop. However several sites need flash. So I hit the link and install as usual. Not a problem. Except it installs flash on the desktop IE10, but when I open the sites or explorer through Metro it still requires to be installed.

Slightly strange. Any ideas? Whenever you click the link to install it from adobe it switches to the desktop browser.

Thanks in advance.
 
The Metro IE10 has a special "white list" of sites that are allowed to use Flash. You can't alter that as it's set by Microsoft.
 
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