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I seem incapable of changing it.
Everytime I go to install a new driver, it keeps throwing MS's generic broadcom one on, loving my 200kb/s
Windows 8 release preview has been launched today
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I seem incapable of changing it.
Everytime I go to install a new driver, it keeps throwing MS's generic broadcom one on, loving my 200kb/s
That's an insult to Windows 3, which offered much more flexible window management than Metro does.
Metro is more like a return to the days of Windows 1, where you weren't expected to multitask much and couldn't overlap windows (although in some ways even that 1985 GUI was less limited).
It's a crippled phone/tablet interface slapped on a desktop PC and it doesn't integrate well with desktop applications.
I use a couple of 27" monitors, one a pretty nice Hazro 2560x1440 display bought from OcUK. I didn't get them to run space wasting full screen apps designed to be more at home on a 10" touchscreen tablet.
People complain about Mac OS X, Unity, Gnome 3 and other new interfaces being dumbed down and a change for the worse, but Metro is the only one that scraps the 30+ year old idea of overlapping and resizable windows. I know that a lot of people just maximise everything, but personally I actually use the windowing in Windows.
Maybe given time Microsoft will make Metro more powerful, or integrate it better with the traditional desktop. But that assumes that Microsoft care about "power users", rather than tablet buying consumers, and that they want to preserve the traditional desktop rather gradually phasing it out.
What worries me is that there are plenty of ways in which Microsoft could have integrated Metro and the traditional desktop more elegantly. Instead they've chosen to make them very much distinct and inconsistent, with Metro non-optional and the desktop effectively running within it like an application. It makes me think that they see Metro, and applications that run in it, as the only future for Windows.
For now it's easy enough to stick with Windows 7, or just run desktop software in Windows 8, with Metro nothing but a fancy Start Menu replacement (which is one thing it does pretty well). That won't necessarily be true in a few years time, not if essential software and utilities start to become Metro only. If that happens then I will be looking at jumping ship to an alternative OS.
Asus are atrocious at updating drivers, their last update was June last year
I cant believe they have not released beta drivers for windows 8.
I would use windows 8 as my main operating system if the sound worked.
I guess I'm not alone in thinking this is a rather large bet on the future success of tablets and laptops then? Personally I think Microsoft might be ahead of the curve of this one; many people are already replacing their PCs with iPads, or using the iPads more. The only problem with this is the iPad is still fairly limited in scope; there's plenty of things that it just cannot do. The idea that people can 'undock' their Windows PC and take it with them on the go could be quite a powerful one. I'd love to see some sort of AirPlay-like functionality with the Xbox 360 (or possibly something like the PS3/Vita connectivity) but I guess that would be announced on Monday if it was going to happen?
They've been talking about 'three screens' for the past few years. I have a feeling one of those screens just changed with the growing focus of mobile computing and the slow decline in desktop computing.
They've been talking about 'three screens' for the past few years. I have a feeling one of those screens just changed with the growing focus of mobile computing and the slow decline in desktop computing.
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I've noticed numerous references, in particular the video app, where you can choose to play files on the Xbox 360.
It's called Microsoft Smart Glass according to Engadget. Read a story on there right after I put that post up. Coming to Windows, Windows Phone, iOS and Android.
Funny video here showing a guy's dad trying to use Windows 8 for the first time which proves how unintuitive it is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nU&feature=fvwrel
Lots more on Youtube with the same result even trying to do the most basic of things. This will be a typical response from most users as I have to deal with end users at work all day so know how patient they are.
On a HP slate it works really well and its pretty good! On a desktop no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nU&feature=fvwrel
Lots more on Youtube with the same result even trying to do the most basic of things. This will be a typical response from most users as I have to deal with end users at work all day so know how patient they are.
On a HP slate it works really well and its pretty good! On a desktop no
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No, it's a rubbish video. On a beta piece of software. What do you think people did with the start button, without the tutorial background picture.
And lol, Impossible to use, yet works so well on a slate, which is it? It can't be both, they are the same OS. If ones impossible, so is the other, regardless of input device, as the controls and locations are identical.
Your prejudice is clouding your up judgment. Especially on the this is the downfall of Ms, it's the complete opposite, MS must have a Mobile OS or they would lose a ton of business as more and more people/Coporations see the use of mobile devices and standardizing makes perfect sense. One piece of software for multiple devices. Rather than a desktop version and a totally different mobile version.
And lol, Impossible to use, yet works so well on a slate, which is it? It can't be both, they are the same OS. If ones impossible, so is the other, regardless of input device, as the controls and locations are identical.
Your prejudice is clouding your up judgment. Especially on the this is the downfall of Ms, it's the complete opposite, MS must have a Mobile OS or they would lose a ton of business as more and more people/Coporations see the use of mobile devices and standardizing makes perfect sense. One piece of software for multiple devices. Rather than a desktop version and a totally different mobile version.
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Installed (in VM). Really don't like it. The issue is that I have no problems whatsoever with the existing UI paradigms in Windows 7. On the desktop, all I would be looking for is an evolutionary improvement on Win7. Instead, I get this intrusive Metro stuff which makes various things I do on the desktop harder or less convenient, and there seems to be no way to get a 'pure' desktop experience without Metro.
I can absolutely see how Metro will go down well on tablets. On the desktop, though, I really don't want to see any Metro at all unless I specifically switch into Metro mode, simply because the UI is poorly suited to interaction with keyboard and mouse. It was just about tolerable with the Metro screen replacing the start menu. But now there's this silly icon bar that's activated when you mouse to the right-hand corners, and which now seems necessary for such basic tasks as shutting down (which hence take 3x as long as on Win7).
My belief is that MS has jumped the gun significantly here by trying to force Metro on all users. There will come a time when users of ordinary PCs form a fairly small constellation within the computing universe, but that time is not now: a majority of installs of Win8 are going to be on systems without touchscreens. MS at least needs to offer users of ordinary PCs the option to have a desktop experience which is completely unpolluted by all the Metro stuff. Otherwise, adoption of Win8 is going to be very trying indeed, particularly in businesses.
Win7 was a failure on tablets because the UI wasn't suited to touch interaction. With a UI not suited to keyboard/mouse interaction, how is Win8 going to be anything other than a failure on the desktop?
I can absolutely see how Metro will go down well on tablets. On the desktop, though, I really don't want to see any Metro at all unless I specifically switch into Metro mode, simply because the UI is poorly suited to interaction with keyboard and mouse. It was just about tolerable with the Metro screen replacing the start menu. But now there's this silly icon bar that's activated when you mouse to the right-hand corners, and which now seems necessary for such basic tasks as shutting down (which hence take 3x as long as on Win7).
My belief is that MS has jumped the gun significantly here by trying to force Metro on all users. There will come a time when users of ordinary PCs form a fairly small constellation within the computing universe, but that time is not now: a majority of installs of Win8 are going to be on systems without touchscreens. MS at least needs to offer users of ordinary PCs the option to have a desktop experience which is completely unpolluted by all the Metro stuff. Otherwise, adoption of Win8 is going to be very trying indeed, particularly in businesses.
Win7 was a failure on tablets because the UI wasn't suited to touch interaction. With a UI not suited to keyboard/mouse interaction, how is Win8 going to be anything other than a failure on the desktop?
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After just a few hours and reading one article on the Internet about the new gestures (http://www.vikitech.com/10990/windows-8-touch-mouse-gestures) I'm perfectly fine with it. TBH, the more Metro apps that come out and replace the desktop ones, the better.
If you go to the Photos app, then the Charms bar > Settings > Settings you will see an option to turn Facebook tile off or go into options to disconnect Facebook from the app.
Yeah, I think it's supposed to be context sensitive.