Corruption is one of the biggest factors holding humanity back from solving our problems.
It should be crushed at every opportunity.
Woman spent £16m in Harrods and is asked to explain where she found the loose change.
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It should be crushed at every opportunity.
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Why advertise your lack of knowledge as if the reason you don't know is some kind of conspiracy.
I don't know personally but I looked and found this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32827790
Now more people know....
It is an easy target though - they don't have a lot of clout with influential people or a powerful country backing them up, etc.
Soldato
It's low hanging as it gets. Someone in my family does building work and specialises in basement excavation for rich "Londoners". Most customers would be a bit suspect tbh, but do the government want to open "that" can of worms? Nope!
It just seems like a scheme to try and fund the shortfall this country has when funding these areas of our establishment. She seems like an easy target to me and there are much bigger problems that both the BBC and the police could be focusing their efforts on.
I'm not so sure about that. Corporate control of price fixing and taking customers for a ride is more corrupt and would be a better use of our police and governments time. This is a get rich quick scheme and that's if we actually end up getting her assets. I'm guessing that we won't and it will be another waste of the tax man's (our) money
Soldato
Sorry but I disagree.
It's no one's business how she got her money. Are we going to start questioning everyone who spends crazy amounts.
And I'm not a fan of her identity being put out there in the public.
Soldato
Haha, so true.
Soldato
35 credit cards all issued by her husband's bank? Nope, nothing to see here at all.
There were a couple programs on BBC or ITV about this recently, one of those police propaganda "look what we do" kind of shows like the traffic cop ones from back in the day. They seize and sell goods a lot when investigating drug dealers etc. Apparently it used to be the case that they'd just auction off high ticket items, boats, cars, property etc. But they've become a bit more savvy and realised that they can also make quite a bit of money on second hand designer clothes and the like.
It makes me quite cheerful to think that the ill gotten gains from on criminal might end up funding the investigation into other criminals. A bit like cosmic justice.
There were a couple programs on BBC or ITV about this recently, one of those police propaganda "look what we do" kind of shows like the traffic cop ones from back in the day. They seize and sell goods a lot when investigating drug dealers etc. Apparently it used to be the case that they'd just auction off high ticket items, boats, cars, property etc. But they've become a bit more savvy and realised that they can also make quite a bit of money on second hand designer clothes and the like.
It makes me quite cheerful to think that the ill gotten gains from on criminal might end up funding the investigation into other criminals. A bit like cosmic justice.
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You are suggesting that criminals can only be prosecuted if they are caught with their hands in the till?
Her husband was sentenced to 15 years in jail in 2016 for defrauding the International Bank of Azerbaijan out of £2.2billion and you think she found her wealth in a pot at the end of a rainbow?
Do you have change for these brand new £9 notes?
Soldato
Regardless of her history. I don't get why her identity was made public.
What if she's completely innocent?
What if she's completely innocent?
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Then she will be able to stand proud and erect, having explained that she earned her millions by washing cars and proclaiming that the British legal system is so much better than that in Azerbaijan where her husband failed to use the dame story to explain how he came by £2.2billion.
If someone doesn't want to risk their identity being made public after a court's decision then living in the UK with a judicial system based on openness and transparency (going back to before the Magna Carta) isn't a good idea.
Soldato
The law does place the onus on the accused to prove their innocence. I'm not sure it's such a good idea.
That is why the only way to obtain an Unexplained Wealth Order is by a limited number of qualifying bodies (that doesn't include the general police force for example) to apply to the High Court, where the person can contest any application. It is a intrusive law but it does have inbuilt safeguards to prevent abuse (not saying it can't be abused, anything can).
It is because corruption has a very big trickle-down effect. Take the property market for example. Why do you think Mayfair, Knightsbridge are no-go areas for joe public? These investigators should go round knocking on doors in those areas and they'll soon find many more rich Russians/Arabs/Chinese that have made their money out of dubious means to go after*
*Well actually, they won't, because those houses are never lived in and are simply for money laundering.
There's a very big trickle-down effect from "legit" millionaires being priced out of those prime central London areas in that they start buying in zone 2-3. The "normal" working people who would have bought a tiny flat in zone 2 now cannot afford it, so they buy in zone 3. The people who would scrape a flat in zone 3 10 years ago can no longer afford that, so decide to commute in from Hertfordshire. And bingo bango, you have our ridiculous monopoly property board where no "normal" people can afford any sort of house in Greater London.
I do agree that her identity shouldn't be made public. There's no need for that. Just lock her up, seize the assets, and then go after the next dodgy banker who owns 3 houses in Knightsbridge.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/twt/london-money-laundering-capital#
She's not accused of a crime per say, so innocence or guilt isn't particularly relevant.
People who are accused of crimes have their identity made public all the time though.
Soldato
What can you buy from Harrods which totals £16m anyway?