Women and makeup

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Angilion said:
No, it's not. It's to project an image. The purpose of projecting that image varies depending on what the wearer wants. Sometimes it's to attract a mate. Sometimes it's to acquire an advantage of some kind. Business, politics, whatever. Sometimes it's to compete with others. Sometimes it's conforming to a norm. Sometimes it's very visibly not conforming to a norm (which often becomes conforming to a different norm). Sometimes it's just habit, with no real purpose. Sometimes it's art. Sometimes it serves a psychological purpose, a sort of mental armour and/or a way of getting into character for something. Put your face on and you can face things more easily. Sometimes it serves a practical purpose to do with lighting, which is why it's so common on TV. Projecting an image serves all sorts of purposes.
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TurtleTwo said:
Women don't just wear make-up to attract a mate, this is blatantly obvious and you have to be an idiot to not know otherwise.
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This and this...
 
Do you only make yourself look good to attract a mate?

I do understand though, it seems a little odd for women in high ranking professional positions to be wearing lipstick on the face of it, but really they care about their appearance. Though I'm not sure any amount of makeup can save Nichola Sturgeon.
 
I used to tell one of old girlfriends from years ago that she looked fine (which she did) without makeup on, but she'd still slap it on whenever we went out.
 
tbh some do look better with make up than without. its why people use it.

obviously if you pretty you dont need to have it on.
 
Dirk Diggler said:
Sometime in the future, our descendents will look back and find it bizarre that women painted their face like they do, particularly Scouse women who draw lines above their eyes with a Sharpie.

A bit like turning off the sound and turning on the lights at a club. Because drunk people dancing is also weird.
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They'll probably consider some current fashions in makeup bizarre (like drawing lines above your eyes with a Sharpie), but probably not the general idea of it. Makeup has been used very widely for a very long time, so it will probably continue to be. Although it might become seen as weird for women to do it rather than men, if that fashion changes again. Or maybe some more advanced form of cosmetic changes will become normal instead. Configurable facial implants, implanted or engineered chameleon-level colour-changing abilities...who knows?

secretspy said:
[..]If someone (and I include men in this) want to wear make up and eye liner and lipstick etc then that's their choice regardless of their reasons behind it.
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That raises the question of the extent of choice. Right now, women (and only women) wearing makeup is a strong norm in many cultures and is skillfully pushed by a massive industry making huge profit margins from it. Is that really a choice? The only significant change recently is that industry trying to increase their market by targetting men as well. They'll probably succeed. If moisturisers and hair retention products and hair dyes and suchlike, why not eyeliner and foundation and suchlike? It's not a big difference.
 
Angilion said:
That raises the question of the extent of choice. Right now, women (and only women) wearing makeup is a strong norm in many cultures and is skillfully pushed by a massive industry making huge profit margins from it. Is that really a choice? The only significant change recently is that industry trying to increase their market by targetting men as well. They'll probably succeed. If moisturisers and hair retention products and hair dyes and suchlike, why not eyeliner and foundation and suchlike? It's not a big difference.
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Ironically until fairly recently wearing makeup was seen as a no-no unless you were an actor or whore. Though arguably given the state of western society perhaps not much has changed.
 
A fair few women do complain about the amount of time it takes them to apply all their makeup tho.

I'm sure many blokes have heard at some point, "It's OK for you, you don't have to spend hours in the bathroom doing your make-up..."

It's a social norm tho, and therefore expected, so good luck to anyone trying to resist the status quo. I personally think most women look fine sans makeup (pointy elbows notwithstanding).
 
Dis86 said:
Ironically until fairly recently wearing makeup was seen as a no-no unless you were an actor or whore. Though arguably given the state of western society perhaps not much has changed.
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Fashions change. Go a bit further back and makeup was for high status women or for high status men. Makeup has also been for warriors. It's all just fashion, which is just nonsense. Probably the biggest driver at the moment is profit, so the likely result is an increase in market size. Hence the drive towards making makeup fashionable for men again, but this time for men and women rather than men or women. Why only sell stuff at a farcical markup to half of adults when you can sell it to all of them?
 
I find people trying to look like something they aren't a vile habit of today's society. Makeup, false nails, pumped up lips, false eyelashes, painted on eyebrows, inflatable breasts....the list seems infinite.

At least if you date an naturally good looking person, you won't get any nasty surprises in the morning.

Perhaps if they left their makeup off and let their skin breath, they wouldn't need pounds of foundation to cover up their spots.
 
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