The stupid thing is having a time system set up that meant that in winter you had light 4 hours before 12 and 4 hours after 12 and in summer 8 hours before 12 and 8 hours after 12 but rather than people just doing things when it was light, someone decided things had to align to the clock and too much light in the morning was being 'wasted' and the entire clock system should move by an hour for half a year rather than just do things an hour earlier according to the clock.
Woo-hoo, the clocks go back to GMT this weekend!
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Absolutely this my friend
yes he was, he has to leave at 7:15am, a bit later when it is light and he can go by bike.
YET MORE ****ING HASSLE CAUSED BY THE CLOCK CHANGE!!!
NEED to get some work done outside on the van don't I ? - LIKE I HAVE TO DO THIS - but it's been raining all day, and only just stopped - IF I HAD 2 HOURS OF DAYLIGHT LEFT IT WOULD ALL BE OK.
But NOOOoooOOooOOooo - got to be a bunch of idiots haven't we, make ourselves live in the dark.
Honestly, gets worse as I get older, going to start the war against GMT, and make life BST standard........*whispers* 'FOREEEVVVERRRR'
ehh, DST has got nothing to do with the weather.
Exactly, why screw everyone's body blocks and skew daylight hours in such a perverse way that shortens mornings.and stops midday being midday?
None of this fake manipulation of time changes the number of daylight hours
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It does when the weather stops being awful 1 hour from sunset when it could have been 2 - you're looking at it backwards.
Had to abandon an urgent job today now as its too dark already - doing my head in.
Well thats a stupid early time for school, makes no difference getting up in the dark then - may as well be BST, either way waking up and getting ready is in the dark - so may as well kick GMT to the curb - literally only you & Feek like GMT, absolutely everyone else has said how awful it is its so dark now early.
except it is the opposite, now we are back on the correct time he can go to school in the daylight instead of the dark.
School starts at 7:50 with attendence at 7:40.
Ignoring the weather you would jave had 1 more hour this morning to do the work, so there isn't really an argument here
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What the hell school starts at 7.50am?! Jeez, poor kid.
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Repeatedly saying 'get up earlier' wont change the fact I cant do the work until the afternoon as I have stuff to do in the morning -- this comment is being constantly said by you and you dont seem to understand I cannot change the timing of everyone else I know ???? Like it's against my will but I have to obey the laws of this madness.
People like you always say 'get up earlier' how about you go to bed at a different time?
No, getting up earlier wont help, at all - I'm normal, I sleep at night, I dont roll out of bed at horrendous o clock - morning people are aliens.
An you keep saying to do things in the evening when i repeatedly said that is almost impossible for most people with professional jobs and family commitments. It will be at least 9-9:30pm before everything is done and i could do something outside, so the fact the sun sets an hour earlier makes absolutely zero difference.
You say you go to bed at night, so this means returning to GMT is perfect for you because as it gets dark 1 jour earlier, you can go to bed 1 hour earlier and then gain that day light in the morning
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Get up earlier
No, I have to do stuff in the morning - I can get to my free time PM - Trust me, the GMT lovers are the minority by far
Have you considered buying some lights?
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Tbf, you realise if the clocks hadn't changed, you would have the same amount of time between the rain stopping and the light dropping?
The only thing that makes BST appealing is the fact that as a society we (stupidly) decided to make the typical working day off set from when the daylight is during GMT.
If working 8-4 was normal instead of 9-5 and sleeping 8pm-4am was normal instead of 10pm to 6am etc. then BST would be entirely redundant.
It would be interesting (well, interesting is maybe a strong word) to understand why society developed into wanting to do things later in the day (at least according to the clock) rather than when there was actually daylight.
If working 8-4 was normal instead of 9-5 and sleeping 8pm-4am was normal instead of 10pm to 6am etc. then BST would be entirely redundant.
It would be interesting (well, interesting is maybe a strong word) to understand why society developed into wanting to do things later in the day (at least according to the clock) rather than when there was actually daylight.
People generally try to schedule fixed tasks/appointments early in the day, so as to have the rest of the day free in an open ended way, especially if trying to do something like working on a vehicle where you don't really know how long it might take, etc. most people don't like to have something hanging over you, that you have to remember to do, all day albeit then there is the factor of motivation/laziness and deferring tasks.
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Rroff gets it.
Sunset in southern Portugal isn't much later, an hour maybe, sadly, I was honestly considering going there for 3 months over winter - their clocks go back tomorrow, sunset approx 5.30pm for them - nuts they do it Portugal as well, they could have daylight to 6.30pm clocks wise if they wanted, absolutely nuts.
Which is the opposite of what has ended up happening - we have a societal typical working day that's set closer to evening than morning as the most obvious indicator.
Rather than simply get up when it's light and start doing stuff, as a society we decided it's better to stick rigidly to clock time schedules that aren't centred on the centre of the actual day, then move the day itself via clock changing to suit that when half the morning light is wasted because that's "too early"
Looks to be fairly centred going by the sunlight graph for London anyhow ( https://www.worlddata.info/europe/united-kingdom/sunset.php ).