Woolwich serious incident

Private Lewis Murphy was awarded one of our country’s highest bravery awards when he carried his colleague through 20 metres of thick mud and water.

Makes me sick to the stomach knowing a man who served his country has been slain by someone living on his own soil :( RIP Soldier

Did u just pick a name for this post,? Considering the dead person hasn't been named you know more than the major news sites :confused:
 
Cowardly running him over, if you're such a soldier take him on hand to hand, the South London bad boy would have had his arse handed it to him.

I really am sick to the stomach at this, I can't even begin to imagine what his family are going through :(
 
Go on then. Original verses please, not some interpretation.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"

Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Need I go on?
 
Rrrrrriiiiiiiiggggghhhhht :rolleyes:

Ok lets reverse that. Say there was a racist attack on an muslim arab in a very similar way. Then someone made a thread about the incident. During the thread someone said that joining the islamic society of Briton was racist as it is a racist organization. Would you not be the first person to be claiming racism?
 
Ill take that as you don't have an answer for my points.

Take it as what you want, you're discussing something completely different anyway now, I couldn't give a flying **** how you want to take it.

Chalk it as 5 internet argument winners points if it makes you feel happy inside :)
 
Hilarious.

I'm a 'left wing weight-lifter' actually - so take that.

Are you stupid?

Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html

So the old testament isn't part of modern Christian theology?, you are the one who said I wouldn't be able to find anything about killing infidels.

I believe the term for what you are doing is called "moving the goalposts".

Just post scientific research don't shoot the messenger ;)
 
I dont, i think what they have done is sick and deplorable, but im not that delusional to believe what our country is doing in other countries isnt just as sick and a direct response was bound to happen.

But you're happy to support their argument that they're just "soldiers killing soldiers", in my book that makes you a pretty disgusting individual.

Yeah war is horrible, we didn't start it but I sincerely hope the West remembers how to play and finishes it. Ultimately who do you want to win, your mujahadeen "brothers" or Great Britain and the West?
 
Its war, just because you don’t realise it sat at home watching the TV, there are real brutal wars that our country is/has been involved in which were bound to land here back home.

Maybe the war coming home will wake some people up and make them take notice of what our country is doing.

The men have stated why they have done what they have done, in a direct retaliation of our Army’s involvements in several wars around the world. (which we started)

We've been involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and to some extent Mail...

these guys are (allegedly) of Somali origin... aside from some anti piracy patrols and support to the govt we're not massively involved there

The only link these guys have is a shared belief in the magic sky pixie followed by people in some other countries we have been involved in. Its not our foreign policy at fault in this particular instance... its a messed up set of beliefs resulting from an extreme interpretation of Islam.
 
Its war, just because you don’t realise it sat at home watching the TV, there are real brutal wars that our country is/has been involved in which were bound to land here back home.

Maybe the war coming home will wake some people up and make them take notice of what our country is doing.

The men have stated why they have done what they have done, in a direct retaliation of our Army’s involvements in several wars around the world. (which we started)

Hmm wonder what would happen if we pulled out of all these places then, pretty sure it would turn inwards and before you know it another world war. Sorry but the world couldnt take another world war it would be the end of us all next time around. Its not perfect but its the best we can do. Until we can eradicate religion, which is not going to happen. So its little skirmishes far away from home keeping the mad folk in check and doing the best we can of it until some benign alien dicator comes along and sorts it all out for us.

Ban all religion would be a start though, and that means stopping all these faith schools.
 
only just seen this on the news (i don't live in a cave) but have they released any details of the victim?

this is unbelievable and will have big reprecussions methinks.
 
But you're happy to support their argument that they're just "soldiers killing soldiers", in my book that makes you a pretty disgusting individual.

Yeah war is horrible, we didn't start it but I sincerely hope the West remembers how to play and finishes it. Ultimately who do you want to win, your mujahadeen "brothers" or Great Britain and the West?

just ignore him, I wouldn't give his posts the time of day, childish bile.
 
You lose some Karma points for using a DM link....:(
It was intentionally ironic :p (trolling the reader base) it's more funny insulting right wingers with daily mail articles.

I'm not actually, my political views are slightly right from centre according to the political compass test. Cheers anyway. I don't need to assert my manliness by becoming a right wing lunatic just because I think the EDL and BNP are a bunch of arses.
Indeed, this isn't a "left VS right" argument anyway.

It's sane VS insane (judging from the ethnic cleansing level comments on here).

As I said before, you can be economically right wing & still socially normal (like many on here I disagree with on economic issues, but for stuff like this & equality laws we are on the same page) - not everybody who is right wing is a racist bigot.
 
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I read the same Old Testament quotes on wikianswers too :) You missed the bit about there not being anything similar in the New Testament.



Pretty sure extremist Islamists are against abortion too. Plus there are a lot of wierd cults in the US that aren't really Christian by any recognised definition (A Follower of Christ being the most common).

I think the point is that in all religions there are extremeists who will kill in the name of their religion. Christians or Islams or whoever.
 
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