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I concur.
working for your dole......
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I do like Liverpool, yes
Ah, I see. If in that case you were alluding to myself being a Labour supporter I shall inform you that I hate them - I've never voted for them.
If however you were alluding to red being the traditional colour of Socialism/Marxism then yes you would be correct. However I'm becoming more aligned to Trotskyism with a healthy blend of Altruistic Capitalism. I know that might sound like a contradiction of terms but I do so hate pigeon holes
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I have been working 30 hours a week(only had to do a minimum of 20) for the past 5 weeks for my dole money at B&Q, it is something i offered to do because i would rather work for my dole money then be classed as a lazy **** who sits at home all day. It has given a lot of confidence, met loads of great people and more importantly recent work experience.
It has been one of the best things I have done recently. They are saying I am fantastic at my job and got me to fill in a job app today
It has been one of the best things I have done recently. They are saying I am fantastic at my job and got me to fill in a job app today
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I like the idea,as it will get those who have been on the dole with no intentions of getting a job to get their backside into gear.
Although on the other hand,Like mentioned this seems like it will hurt those who genuinely are trying to get a job but there just isn't any out there.
Government need to focus on getting rid of these immigrants,stop them comming over and taking our jobs..
I'm full time employed and consider myself really lucky,But i still look to see whats out there in my local area from time to time and there really isn't anything that's decent...most are temporary low contract hours on basic wage which is no good to anyone really...we need more Full time permanent jobs.
Although on the other hand,Like mentioned this seems like it will hurt those who genuinely are trying to get a job but there just isn't any out there.
Government need to focus on getting rid of these immigrants,stop them comming over and taking our jobs..
I'm full time employed and consider myself really lucky,But i still look to see whats out there in my local area from time to time and there really isn't anything that's decent...most are temporary low contract hours on basic wage which is no good to anyone really...we need more Full time permanent jobs.
So are we all agreed then? Let's just leave it as it is?
But seriously, there are many people here who like to give the impression that they care so much more than the rest of us about the plight of those at the bottom of the pile (which, let's not forget in the UK is still an incredibly privileged position to be in). However I would wager that these very same people will never be found actively doing anything to help those people that they so eagerly clamour to defend.
The hypocrisy is plain and clear, most of the false concern for the poor on here is pretty much just ego-massaging. A way for people to convince them selves that "I care. I'm a good person" and give themselves a nice warm fuzzy feeling inside. Probably 99% of faux-socialists will just jump online, where they know they can run off when they've reached their very narrow limit of understanding on a subject, wax lyrical about how unfair society is amongst their other privileged friends, blow hot air, semi-socialist bull**** down the pub, or over their £3 high-street coffee whilst wearing nice, warm, recently purchased clothes, stroking their (probably) ironic beard, comfortable in the knowledge that they can go home after and watch Breaking Bad on Netflix and forget about it all until some other "priviliged toff" (oh the irony) has the utter gall to suggest people lift a finger and contribute to society for a living.
I'm happy to work hard, pay my taxes (without complaining) and try in the future to bring up my children (hopefully) to be functioning members of society. To me, that's more than enough help towards the greater good. That is real, tangible assistance to society. I could do more, God knows I could do more, I'm more than happy to admit that; but at least people with my views don't pretend to care more about the poor than others, or care more than they really do. That to me, is the worst kind of hypocrisy.
I'm going to bet that there's a few people who've read the above, felt the rage bubble inside and are now itching to jump to the keyboard and tear this post apart. Well before you do, be honest with yourself, what is the cause of that rage? Take a second and think. There's a good chance that I've just described you, isn't there? Is that anger you're experiencing the uncomfortable feeling of self realisation; that very awful, human feeling everybody gets when they've been criticised and they know in their heart of hearts that the other person has a point? Or is it genuine outrage - You DO help the poor, you DO volunteer to help the unemployed with their CVs, you DO help someone you know who is struggling with Maths and English?
Nope, thought not.
Suck it up, my friend. Pretending to care on the internet does not make you a good person.
But seriously, there are many people here who like to give the impression that they care so much more than the rest of us about the plight of those at the bottom of the pile (which, let's not forget in the UK is still an incredibly privileged position to be in). However I would wager that these very same people will never be found actively doing anything to help those people that they so eagerly clamour to defend.
The hypocrisy is plain and clear, most of the false concern for the poor on here is pretty much just ego-massaging. A way for people to convince them selves that "I care. I'm a good person" and give themselves a nice warm fuzzy feeling inside. Probably 99% of faux-socialists will just jump online, where they know they can run off when they've reached their very narrow limit of understanding on a subject, wax lyrical about how unfair society is amongst their other privileged friends, blow hot air, semi-socialist bull**** down the pub, or over their £3 high-street coffee whilst wearing nice, warm, recently purchased clothes, stroking their (probably) ironic beard, comfortable in the knowledge that they can go home after and watch Breaking Bad on Netflix and forget about it all until some other "priviliged toff" (oh the irony) has the utter gall to suggest people lift a finger and contribute to society for a living.
I'm happy to work hard, pay my taxes (without complaining) and try in the future to bring up my children (hopefully) to be functioning members of society. To me, that's more than enough help towards the greater good. That is real, tangible assistance to society. I could do more, God knows I could do more, I'm more than happy to admit that; but at least people with my views don't pretend to care more about the poor than others, or care more than they really do. That to me, is the worst kind of hypocrisy.
I'm going to bet that there's a few people who've read the above, felt the rage bubble inside and are now itching to jump to the keyboard and tear this post apart. Well before you do, be honest with yourself, what is the cause of that rage? Take a second and think. There's a good chance that I've just described you, isn't there? Is that anger you're experiencing the uncomfortable feeling of self realisation; that very awful, human feeling everybody gets when they've been criticised and they know in their heart of hearts that the other person has a point? Or is it genuine outrage - You DO help the poor, you DO volunteer to help the unemployed with their CVs, you DO help someone you know who is struggling with Maths and English?
Nope, thought not.
Suck it up, my friend. Pretending to care on the internet does not make you a good person.
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Lol at this nonsense. 50k people just marched in Manchester, but yea, it's the arm chair socilialists that post at the length you just did in a "bubble of rage" (LOL), not the care mad "stuff you got mine!" "Pull the ladder up jack!" people posting about how really people who care don't care because you don't know what they do outside of posting, and the 50k people can't possibly correlate.
It was immensely cringeworthy, and therefore incredibly entertaining, I think he should bring it back and post like that more often so my bubble or lols will grow bigger
they also marched about tax dodging yet you still do it.
so hey everyone else pays just as little attention to marches as you do.
yay for us all.
When the government legalise what I do I'll pay tax on it. It feels like a slap in the face to give the government money for something they frown on me doing and want to make my life harder because of the profession I've chosen. If you disagree with that then fine, but that's my logic and my choice, I'm sorry if it offends you and that you find me hypocritical, but let's face it, they are losing out on a pittance compared to the large scale political ideologies we are talking about.
And yes, it is criminal how little people pay attention to peaceful mass protests, which is why I advcate violent protest and civil unrest.
I am sadly 'on the dole' currently. I decided to try and find work after leaving college to have a break from education for a year or two before going to university. As it turns out, it isn't as easy as I had hoped it might be.
I currently work voluntarily two days a week and buy and sell things from time to time when funds get a little low. I would hope that there is some kind of exception for people who already work voluntarily.
I HATE the fact that I do not have a job. Most friends of my age seem to have a job of some description, most of which do not have the grades or qualifications that I have, but I look for jobs every single evening using a wide range of sites and tools, I have applied for part time work, full time work, apprenticeships, temporary work through employment agencies and even emailed local stores enquiring about vacancies and I check things like local supermarket job sections quite frequently.
It genuinely annoys me that while I am doing all this, there are people doing absolutely nothing who get paid the same as I do. I may not be in full time employment, but believe me, working voluntarily, writing advertisements, buying, selling and trading, walking the half an hour to the post office to post packages and spending hours every evening writing covering letters and sending out CV's really knocks it out of you... Especially when you know people who are doing far less and earning a steady wage.
I suppose this is the meaning of that age old phrase. "Life's not fair"
P.S, looking for work in the Sussex area, polite, competent, computer literate, qualifications in that field, able to work on tills and offer customer assistance, able to travel by public transport. Etc etc... Anyone? 
I currently work voluntarily two days a week and buy and sell things from time to time when funds get a little low. I would hope that there is some kind of exception for people who already work voluntarily.
I HATE the fact that I do not have a job. Most friends of my age seem to have a job of some description, most of which do not have the grades or qualifications that I have, but I look for jobs every single evening using a wide range of sites and tools, I have applied for part time work, full time work, apprenticeships, temporary work through employment agencies and even emailed local stores enquiring about vacancies and I check things like local supermarket job sections quite frequently.
It genuinely annoys me that while I am doing all this, there are people doing absolutely nothing who get paid the same as I do. I may not be in full time employment, but believe me, working voluntarily, writing advertisements, buying, selling and trading, walking the half an hour to the post office to post packages and spending hours every evening writing covering letters and sending out CV's really knocks it out of you... Especially when you know people who are doing far less and earning a steady wage.
I suppose this is the meaning of that age old phrase. "Life's not fair"
P.S, looking for work in the Sussex area, polite, competent, computer literate, qualifications in that field, able to work on tills and offer customer assistance, able to travel by public transport. Etc etc... Anyone?
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they did, years ago. So get paying that tax.
You can always say its the choice of the individual or company to abide by the law and avoid tax, it doesnt stop you going on a hypocritical rant about helping the poor when you actively are a tax evader.
Should they legitimize drug dealers or people trafficers so they can pay their taxes from their chosen careers ?
I have been working 30 hours a week(only had to do a minimum of 20) for the past 5 weeks for my dole money at B&Q, it is something i offered to do because i would rather work for my dole money then be classed as a lazy **** who sits at home all day. It has given a lot of confidence, met loads of great people and more importantly recent work experience.
It has been one of the best things I have done recently. They are saying I am fantastic at my job and got me to fill in a job app today
Fantastic, well done and good luck for the future
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So if you are only claiming JSA this won't affect you?
It seems wrong that you have to work for JSA, how can you look for work and go to interviews and prepare if you are at the work house?
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I cant answer your fisrt question becaucse those details, like many others concerning this subject have not been released, but my personal opinion is, yeah if you have been claiming only jsa for a massive amount of time then go and work for it.
At the work house? Lmfao, youre coming across as a bit of a drama queen.
It is my understanding its a legal requirement to give people time off for job interviews. It would be no different in this senario, in fact thats what the government want the people they are targeting to do.
Its 30 hours a week, that leaves plenty of time to "prepare".
Why are you making excuses for the people who have no intention of ever getting off the dole and finding work?
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So you think it is acceptable to treat the unemployed as criminals? you do understand that real criminals are sentenced to carry out unpaid work as a punishment don't you?
http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=3018
What legal requirements? take a look at some of the scenarios people are being sanctioned for, are you seriously suggesting that jobcentres are playing fair?
http://falseeconomy.org.uk/blog/a-l...ous-benefit-sanctions-people-have-experienced
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No it's not, it's through unethical practise and getting ahead at any cost, most importantly, luck.
And more recently through establishing political power to force market interventions in their favour either through making "political donations", lobbying, or putting their own people into office.
Most big time corporations were started by people who came from money in the first place as well, people who had the funding.
No entrepreneur can compete in a given market any more, because they are all saturated with huge monopolistic firms who make their profit through abusing workers and dodging taxation.
Big corporations offer nothing to society that multiple small businesses allowing people to make a fair living through hard work couldn't offer. Neoliberalism will be the death of this country.
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