World Cup Hosts 2018

Do foriegn players have to register with FIFA/UEFA when they are moving country?

I mean, with all our foreign players in the premiership, does each one have to go through a process involving UEFA or can they just come accross as per the free trade agreements in the EU ?
 
I would imagine they are all registered as players under FIFA in some way, so if we were to walk out of FIFA I imagine players would have to surrender their FIFA 'license' and have a seperate one with us meaning the trading of players with foreign clubs would be very tricky...

That is my completely uninformed assumption of the position :p
 
Why was Borris offering them free rooms in the first place? That's no better than all the other sycophants. We can't get all high and mighty about the French and Qataris when we're doing exactly the same, only less effectively.

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His point is that we didn't do anything about it before, I fail to see what difference that makes to the grand scheme of things, I mean, so what if we didn't do anything about it before, but something needs done about it now as it's so damned obvious this time, I'm sure you'll agree.
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Do you not think it diminishes our position at all if we only care when it happens to us? It implies that it's less about the actual issues and more about our feelings.

I agree that it's particularly obvious this time that there was a load of shady dealing, but I really don't see that the system needs to change in terms of allowing FIFA delegates to be shmoozed by the countries. Any other commercial bid process is the same...why don't we ban all tendering companies from seeing their prospective clients?

Our government went along with the system, yet only now wants to change it because it didn't go their way. If they had such a massive problem with it they should have submitted the bid and kept their distance from the lunching and the entertaining.

All I think FIFA should change is to set out the reality of what they are likely to look for in a hosting nation for the event in question. E.g. at the very start of the process, before any bids have been submitted, they say 'being honest here guys, we're going to pick somewhere that a) hasn't had it before and b) somewhere that is a developing country in football terms.'

That way people don't waste £££ on a bid process that's doomed from the start.
 
The other side of that argument is that just because we (by 'we' I mean England and also the rest of the footballing world) didn't do anything about it before, it does not mean that something shouldn't be done about it this time. The way I look at it is that this time FIFA have well and truly crossed the line and are pretty much saying 'yeah, so, what you going to do about it?'

Tbh, I've said it before, I'm not overly fussed that England didn't get it, if it was given to countries that I thought would put on a good show then fair enough. But with Russia and Qatar I just don't see it, especially the Qatar decision, I just feel that they didn't think that one through properly at all. I mean, January? How on earth is that going to work?

The decisions that have been made are not only affecting England either, as there seems to be a few other countries unhappy with the selection process too.
 
shoot1st said:
The other side of that argument is that just because we (by 'we' I mean England and also the rest of the footballing world) didn't do anything about it before, it does not mean that something shouldn't be done about it this time. The way I look at it is that this time FIFA have well and truly crossed the line and are pretty much saying 'yeah, so, what you going to do about it?'

Tbh, I've said it before, I'm not overly fussed that England didn't get it, if it was given to countries that I thought would put on a good show then fair enough. But with Russia and Qatar I just don't see it, especially the Qatar decision, I just feel that they didn't think that one through properly at all. I mean, January? How on earth is that going to work?

The decisions that have been made are not only affecting England either, as there seems to be a few other countries unhappy with the selection process too.
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But Russia and Qatar simply had the best bids of those who hadn't had it before, so why wouldn't they win. There seems to be this " Qatar suck, they can't put on a good show" theme throughout this thread, the best reasoning I've seen, is they are foreign which to me, doesn't seem like sound reasoning. The stadiums they plan to build are just epic, the hotels will be top notch, the players will have no issues as they can EASILY afford better training facilities and stadiums than South Africa could afford, why can't they put on a good show. They'll build a silly number of hotels, put on a tonne more flights, I can't think why it would be a bad world cup.

A lot of english people seem to think there can only be a good show, if the stadiums are packed full of English fans.

Again the ONLY person to blame here is whoever convinced the higher ups (PM, Boris, etc) that England were in with a shout, no country who had it before was in with a shout, that much is clear, this has been Fifa's mandate for well over a decade, they didn't about turn at the last second.

Someone convinced England they should put in a bid, that person was a delusional moron, 2 years later and a few delegates not wanting to say no to the future King of England, or the PM, does NOT make Fifa corrupt, it makes us stupid for sending people that most people would feel very uncomftable saying "no" to in private.

At a guess it was multiple people at the FA who convinced people like the PM's, Mayor, that we had a real shot with a bid, and in doing all this, how many FA bod's got paid big wages to sort out our bid?

Now FA are passing the buck to Fifa, BS, if anything we should have every team form a new association and ditch the utterly spineless and worthless FA.
 
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Personally I think it's a bit disrespectful to offer someone a gift and then take it back if/when things don't go your way.

Isn't that the meaning of a "bribe"? A gift for gift's sake should be a gift. If you don't intend to honour it in the eventuality we don't get the world cup, don't offer it.
 
Originally Posted by Martin Samuel
No sooner had Russia been awarded the 2018 World Cup when something rather inconvenient happened. The Dagestan Airlines flight to Makhachkala failed to make it off the ground at Domodedovo Airport in Moscow.

There were two killed and 40 injured which, for Russian domestic flights, makes this only a minor tragedy. There were 150 killed at Irkutsk in 2006 and 145 in 2001; there were 113 killed at Sochi in 2006, 87 in Moscow in 2004, 88 at Perm in 2008. Russia is a vast country, as Sepp Blatter, the FIFA president, sagely pointed out.

There will be a lot of internal airline travel in eight years time. The plane that came down was a Tupolev Tu-154 dating from 1992. It was said to have had a refit in 2009, but a source within Dagestan Airlines, quoted by Agence France Presse, said all planes of this type should be decommissioned.

The official explanation for the accident is human error, but as three engines failed, plus the generator and the navigations system, there seemed to be quite a lot of technical issues, too.

Aeroflot, the Russian national airline, recently withdrew all of its Tu-154's from service and there have been three recent emergency landings by aircraft from Dagestan's Tupolev fleet.

Bad things happen to even the safest carriers - Qantas recently - but they seem to happen more often in Russia. If domestic British flights recorded such a litany of disaster there would be quite an outcry. This is where it helps having a national media ranked 140th in the world on the Press Freedom Index.

In Russia, a World Cup with some venues more than three hours apart by air - the distance between Yekaterinburg and Kaliningrad is 1,552 miles - relying on a decrepit domestic airline network is not a story. So it did not overly concern FIFA's Executive Committee when they reached their decision.

After all, when did they ever travel as ordinary fans? If a Tupelev Tu-154 takes out a member of FIFA's ExCo it will be because it falls on his head while he is having lunch.
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And the Spartak fans are at it again:

Spartak Moscow fans celebrated the new openness this week with a small riot, during which passers-by of non-Slavic appearance were attacked and slogans included 'Moscow is a Russian city' and 'Russia for the Russians'.
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And so is ol' Sepp:
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/1...ls-dont-have-sex-during-2022-qatar-world-cup/

Site name is hilariously appropriate, although there's really nothing hilarious about a place that locks you up for being gay and ratified a UN declaration with a load of other countries to remove references to homosexuality from the resolution condemning unjustified executions.
 
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