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Just like all the new movies in the last 2-3 years, this looks abysmal.
The CGI alone had me wanting to puke.
The CGI alone had me wanting to puke.
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You cretinous oaf. Pick up a book and read for half an hour or more before you go to bed. A good book is worth ten films.
Soldato
wasnt there a zombie survival thread on the forums ??? am sure of it as people posted there ideas on how to survive in the uk
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looks like they have just taken The battle at Yonkers & made the movie around that. The original script sounded really good but ditched for this version. Have heard that after test screening, some bits have been re-shot.
Soldato
I concur. You will take more from the jolt of imagination that books force upon you rather than the lack of any sort of imaginary thought while blankly staring at a tv screen and having the story told to you. While 'I Am Legend' was an okay film, it is vastly different from the book and the book is much better.
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Sole use of CGI doesn't cut the mustard in the horror genre. Prosthetics is the only way to do it. CGI seems to have really stagnated in recent years and hasn't pushed on as it should.
Also a reason why it probably hadn't been thought of for Network Television, with The Walking Dead being already adapted, there isn't really room for another Zombie TV series, at least not on the good networks (HBO, AMC & Showtime) who pride themselves in original content.
Also a reason why it probably hadn't been thought of for Network Television, with The Walking Dead being already adapted, there isn't really room for another Zombie TV series, at least not on the good networks (HBO, AMC & Showtime) who pride themselves in original content.
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Oh dear, what a shame. It looks like they've dumped everything that was great about the book and just gone for shear action. The whole point of the book was that the uninfected lost round one and were pushed close to extinction. Only by adapting and changing society as a whole were people able to start retaking what was lost. One particular part of the book I liked was where it was stated that the Cuban economy was larger than that of the entire united states. The point being that the whole concept of stock markets & consumerism had gone out of the window.
I'm sure this will be an enjoyable film, but why bother basing it on the book?
The battle of Yonkers was an excellent chapter, it details exactly how a well trained military could be defeated by zombies. It's not until we adapt and accept that the threat can't be stopped conventionally that we stand a chance. I believe in the end it was geography that saved the US. I can't believe I just wrote all this as if it where real !
I can't recommend getting hold of this book enough. It's very accessible and adds so much to the genre. I've met Max Brooks and the guy is so full of himself it's unreal. I can't help but let this tarnish my opinion of the book a bit, but it's still one of the best out there.
I'm sure this will be an enjoyable film, but why bother basing it on the book?
The battle of Yonkers was an excellent chapter, it details exactly how a well trained military could be defeated by zombies. It's not until we adapt and accept that the threat can't be stopped conventionally that we stand a chance. I believe in the end it was geography that saved the US. I can't believe I just wrote all this as if it where real !
I can't recommend getting hold of this book enough. It's very accessible and adds so much to the genre. I've met Max Brooks and the guy is so full of himself it's unreal. I can't help but let this tarnish my opinion of the book a bit, but it's still one of the best out there.
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Soldato
Agree with this.
I've always preferred the idea of slow moving zombies as the way it should be done but it irritates me that they can take out a group/groups of fully armed soldiers. Form a line, headshot, rinse and repeat = victory. They will win eventually due to sheer numbers and the fact they are relentless (which is what makes it so scary) but to see them roll over army units etc is just bull.
Also, on topic, film looks quite good having never read the book (which I think I will now)
If you read the book, you'll see why the army falls apart because they don't act like that...
... Because of this.
If there's no Yonkers chapter in this film, I will be gutted. It's one of those scenes you imagine as a film as just being mindblowing that even your imagination cannot do the scale of it justice like a friggin huge cinema screen.
I'm more gutted that the film might not re-do some of scenes I imagined than the zombies aren't the same etc. Unless someone 'reboots' it in future years, that opportunity will pass with this film.
Will definitely watch though, and with an open mind.
Soldato
Just read that WWZ is probably going to be a trilogy, so there's hope that certain chapters from the book, like the Battle of Yonkers, could be included down the line in one of the sequels (maybe as a flashback).
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Fast and smart zombies is far more terrifying.
28 days later or i am legend zombies you realy get the feeling that you would stand little chance of surival. Slow zombies usually is just frustrating as people die due to being stupid.
This move looks good, looking forward to it.
28 days later or i am legend zombies you realy get the feeling that you would stand little chance of surival. Slow zombies usually is just frustrating as people die due to being stupid.
This move looks good, looking forward to it.
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I kind of agree with this, my problem is why then pick up the rights to the book and then change it. There is more than enough material out there to put together a completely new film with no associated book. It really changes the whole concept of what the book is trying to convey. Which incidently that's exactly what they did with "I am legend". I thought that was a great film up until the last 30 minutes, then it went in rat pooh rapidly.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the whole purpose of the book was to portray why slow zombies are such a threat because we think normal methods will work against a horde of zombies?
Still going by the fact, Fast and Intelligent isn't a Zombie, that is an infected, which is what I Am Legend is about, not zombies.
When did Zombies become such a broad term that can be applied to any Human Being that has been changed to an abnormality?
Getting a little sick of this. I haven't even read the books, but it ain't World War Z (Zombies) if they ain't damn zombies!
A zombie at best should be able to move at the pace of human depending on the deterioration of it's body.
Still going by the fact, Fast and Intelligent isn't a Zombie, that is an infected, which is what I Am Legend is about, not zombies.
When did Zombies become such a broad term that can be applied to any Human Being that has been changed to an abnormality?
Getting a little sick of this. I haven't even read the books, but it ain't World War Z (Zombies) if they ain't damn zombies!
A zombie at best should be able to move at the pace of human depending on the deterioration of it's body.
The book uses the term Zombie, although the author doesn't like the term and the book makes the distinction itself, explaining that the term was used by the masses so it was convenient, if inaccurate, to continue using it.
I am legend is effectively about a mutated vampirism virus rather than Zombism.
To be honest, despite the love-in about accuracy, the military tactics used in WWZ are a bit antiquated and not particularly representative of what would likely happen in a similar situation IRL, which is probably why the film went with faster infected as they would be more difficult to deal with, particularly in vast numbers.
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Well in the 28 Days/Months franchise the fast 'zombies' made sense bearing in mind the nature of the virus and limitation of human biology. Here's to hoping that may be it will be a case of them being real quick during the initial infection and then slowing down as time progresses.
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I see what you are saying about these zombies they seem super human and obviously cgi. Not at the same level as 28 days later.
From what i understand zombies are humans that are in a zombie state due to an infection which kind of fits the criteria of i am legend monsters. Also if you didn't know there was an alternative ending to the movie i am legend that imo was far better than theatrical ending, if you have not seen it should take a look.
Compared to the dawn of the dead from 1978 where the zombies were ridiculously slow, stupid and the makeup was poorly done, these zombies are the complete opposite end of the zombie spectrum.
I don't read much fiction so probably why i nevermind all these adaptations movies
From what i understand zombies are humans that are in a zombie state due to an infection which kind of fits the criteria of i am legend monsters. Also if you didn't know there was an alternative ending to the movie i am legend that imo was far better than theatrical ending, if you have not seen it should take a look.
Compared to the dawn of the dead from 1978 where the zombies were ridiculously slow, stupid and the makeup was poorly done, these zombies are the complete opposite end of the zombie spectrum.
I don't read much fiction so probably why i nevermind all these adaptations movies
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Soldato
They should film the Mark Tufo (Michael Talbot - Zombie Fallout) series. That way you'd get slow zombies, fast zombies (with the reasons for the difference explained...to a certain degree) and even zombies being lead by another undead with a singular mission. Lots of humour too. I recommend them if you like the genre, although you can miss book 3.5 "Hugo Mann" without losing much.
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This series is great, more for the humour than anything else. The whole "other" undead thing felt a bit odd, but it livend up the series. I still feel sad when I think of Tommy.