Would you warn oncoming drivers of a mobile speed camera?

Not a common occurrence here. The one time I got flashed I just got confused about why I was being flashed. Imo it's not good to risk confusing someone so I wouldn't flash. Ofc I realised once I saw the camera.
 
I don't warn others of the presence of speed cameras, because why should I defend their incompetence?

Why do we have so many speed cameras and so many collisions? Because a section of society either doesn't care about road safety, or are incompetent. Poor driving habits affect the rest of us, including, for example, reducing speed limits on rural roads because some are incapable of driving properly, in a safe and controlled manner. It's very frustrating to see really decent national speed limit roads becoming 40s and 50s to cater for the minority.

i appreciate that this is likely to be a controversial opinion, but I think there should be more speed cameras, particularly average speed cameras, more unmarked patrols and unmarked camera vans - particularly in urban areas. I think this should be 100% funded by FPN and court fine revenues. I also think that for particularly egregious offending (50% or more over a 30 limit, or dangerous driving for example) found by police patrols, it should be a vehicle seizure pending a court hearing within the following week or so. I also think that dangerous/drink/drug driving should come with an interim ban on charge pending a first hearing at court within a week or two.

Some will hate this opinion, but we're far too lenient with poor driving standards, and we all pay the price as a result.
I'm 100 % with you. Make every road average speed camera. I think any one that cares about others doesn't thing if the road network as a race track or that the rules don't apply to them because they know better. I hope with electric cars comes black boxes and auto fining and points to be honest.
The trouble with that is that while I think your an idiot of you purposely speed we all make little mistakes from time to time and I don't think those should be pushed the same way.
Go through a 30 camera at 32 fine, but race around the M60 at 100mph and you don't deserve to drive ever again.
 
Not a common occurrence here. The one time I got flashed I just got confused about why I was being flashed. Imo it's not good to risk confusing someone so I wouldn't flash. Ofc I realised once I saw the camera.
It's illegal anyway so why risk you potentially getting a fine for helping an a hole out who can't stick to the limit.
If someone flashed me I'd either think my lights weren't on it were stuck in high beam or something wrong with my car.
I routinely only flash when going around blind corners or like I said if someone doesn't have their lights on.
 
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I'm 100 % with you. Make every road average speed camera. I think any one that cares about others doesn't thing if the road network as a race track or that the rules don't apply to them because they know better. I hope with electric cars comes black boxes and auto fining and points to be honest.
The trouble with that is that while I think your an idiot of you purposely speed we all make little mistakes from time to time and I don't think those should be pushed the same way.
Go through a 30 camera at 32 fine, but race around the M60 at 100mph and you don't deserve to drive ever again.

Yeah, no.

The current margins for error are fine. No one wants black boxes. Most rational people want decent driving standards. A minority don't care and currently not much is being done to address that, so we're all paying for it.
 
Yeah, no.

The current margins for error are fine. No one wants black boxes. Most rational people want decent driving standards. A minority don't care and currently not much is being done to address that, so we're all paying for it.
Black boxes have a tolerance on them you know you don't instantly get fined for doing 30.1mph in a 30.

What I mean is everyone should aim to do the speed limit. If you aim to do 40 in a 30 that's the period I have an issue with.
I aim to do 70 on the motorway or not often these days 60 behind a truck on auto cruise.
Yes you occasionally do 75 to get an overtake done quickly that's fine, but not sitting at 100 weaving in and out of traffic.
 
Generally speaking no. I'm just a bit uncomfortable flashing random drivers; who knows what nutter might misunderstand/take it the wrong way.
I do report them in Waze though but 99% of the time someone has beaten me to it.
 
I live in the countryside and often flash people to tell them of horses on the road that I've just passed, to tell them to slow down or be aware.

However, very very very rarely there are some mobile cameras hidden in some places, and I also flash people to tell them about it. No skin off my nose, and it's appreciated when it's done to me. That said, I barely do much over the NSL these days (I prefer acceleration up to the limit), that said I'm only human and do get carried away a little sometimes.
 
It's illegal anyway so why risk you potentially getting a fine for helping an a hole out who can't stick to the limit.
If someone flashed me I'd either think my lights weren't on it were stuck in high beam or something wrong with my car.
I routinely only flash when going around blind corners or like I said if someone doesn't have their lights on.

Technically you're right you should only flash your lights to show your presence, so that's what I do, I flash my lights to let people know I'm there... if they happen to interpret that as a hazard up ahead, then that wasn't my intention ;)

I personally go out of way most days to help others - it's a natural trait of mine, doing a small hand movement on the stalk to warn people of hazards just makes the world a nicer place in my eyes.
 
I’m not opposed to 20mph zones if used sensibly (built up residential areas) but having blanket 20mph limits is a bit daft. Agreed, 20mph zones and speed bumps is just annoying, use one or the other but not both
I wouldn't mind if people stuck to them, our little town is 20mph surrounded by 40-60mph roads, and you get the occasional scrote that has passed their test in their ****box corsa that decides to bounce it off the limiter in 1st through the town, but it's the exception really.

I would be happy for speed cameras/average speeds in towns/villages that border NSL roads, but on NSL roads, I'm happy for people to go at a reasonable pace depending on the conditions and the roads. If someone is desperate to overtake me, I slow down indicate left and let them go past, better than having them up my chuff. However, you also often get stuck behind the 40mph everywhere brigade which is more dangerous IMO than doing 65 in a 60.
 
The police can however from memory do you for much more serious offences if they catch you using a vehicle that doesn't meet the construction and use regs and iirc a motbility scooter has some very strict rules and once you go outside of them it'll likely be classed as a car or something and you get done for it not being roadworthy, not being registered, not licenced, and not insured ;)

Mobility scooters are only classed as such if they meet the regs for class 3 or class 4 (4 or 8mph with the associated limiters and features) ;)

That thing he's riding looks like a modified shoprider soverign, they're not particularly stable at 4mp (what they're designed for) on road surfaces and i hate to think what the brakes would be like, and he's also not wearing a helmet nor a belt (not that that would do much good).
Yes I'm a bit of a sourpuss :p

Good luck catching him lol. They won't even be allowed to chase it due to H&S.
 
I personally go out of way most days to help others - it's a natural trait of mine, doing a small hand movement on the stalk to warn people of hazards just makes the world a nicer place in my eyes.
what a thoroughly refreshing thing to read. it's sometimes just the smallest of things that can make an other persons life a tiny bit better. if we all just tried to do those little things from time to time the world would be a much happier place.
 
what a thoroughly refreshing thing to read. it's sometimes just the smallest of things that can make an other persons life a tiny bit better. if we all just tried to do those little things from time to time the world would be a much happier place.
I'm not perfect, but at the same time I try and make an effort with people, a smile, a wave, letting them out of a junction, carrying their bags / helping with a stroller, takes a minute or less out of my day, but hopefully it's passed on.

The way I see it, especially with driving is, if you can help make people less stressed and be a bit happier, they're less likely to drive aggressively, and therefore indirectly may help prevent an accident, or them hurting themselves or someone else. We're all responsible for one another on the road.

As I said previously, if someone is tailgating, rather than sticking the finger up, I'll try and let them pass me if it's safe, I don't know why they're in a rush, it could be an emergency, or it could be that they're driving like a dick. But so what? Me holding them up or getting aggressive with them accomplishes nothing, and gets me stressed too, or puts me at risk. Life's too short to prove a point :)
 
I'm not perfect, but at the same time I try and make an effort with people, a smile, a wave, letting them out of a junction, carrying their bags / helping with a stroller, takes a minute or less out of my day, but hopefully it's passed on.

The way I see it, especially with driving is, if you can help make people less stressed and be a bit happier, they're less likely to drive aggressively, and therefore indirectly may help prevent an accident, or them hurting themselves or someone else. We're all responsible for one another on the road.

As I said previously, if someone is tailgating, rather than sticking the finger up, I'll try and let them pass me if it's safe, I don't know why they're in a rush, it could be an emergency, or it could be that they're driving like a dick. But so what? Me holding them up or getting aggressive with them accomplishes nothing, and gets me stressed too, or puts me at risk. Life's too short to prove a point :)
not being 'weird' but that's genuinely cheered me up reading that. there are so few people in society these days with an outlook like yours that it gladdens the heart when i come across one. don't get me wrong, i don't think everyone is out to shaft everyone else but society as a whole seems to have become so much more insular - the 'i'm alight Jack, screw the rest of you' mindset would appear, imo, to be much more prevalent nowadays.
 
not being 'weird' but that's genuinely cheered me up reading that. there are so few people in society these days with an outlook like yours that it gladdens the heart when i come across one. don't get me wrong, i don't think everyone is out to shaft everyone else but society as a whole seems to have become so much more insular - the 'i'm alight Jack, screw the rest of you' mindset would appear, imo, to be much more prevalent nowadays.
Thank you. A few people have met me from here and I think that's how I come across. But even if my message helps change people's behaviours a little then my job is done!
 
Yep. Speed cameras are all about the money not road safety.
I didn't use to think that, till I got done by this camera :
https://bournemouthdaily.co.uk/drivers-still-getting-caught-out-by-ringwood-road-speed-limit-change/
Now I am not so sure.
According to Crashmap that stretch of road (N bound), a dual carriageway with a central reservation on a primary route and which is very busy, had only had 4 "Slight" accidents (non serious and no fatalities) in the 6 years before the speed limit was dropped from 40mph to 30mph and the camera went in at that site.
It was only the second speeding ticket I had ever had because I never deliberately speed, my ticket was mainly because I was unfamiliar with the area as I am from Sheffield not Bournemouth.
I still would not warn drivers of a speed camera but I am much less positive about them than I was before (I'd still like one in our village to catch the idiots though....).
 
I'm not perfect, but at the same time I try and make an effort with people, a smile, a wave, letting them out of a junction, carrying their bags / helping with a stroller, takes a minute or less out of my day, but hopefully it's passed on.

The way I see it, especially with driving is, if you can help make people less stressed and be a bit happier, they're less likely to drive aggressively, and therefore indirectly may help prevent an accident, or them hurting themselves or someone else. We're all responsible for one another on the road.

As I said previously, if someone is tailgating, rather than sticking the finger up, I'll try and let them pass me if it's safe, I don't know why they're in a rush, it could be an emergency, or it could be that they're driving like a dick. But so what? Me holding them up or getting aggressive with them accomplishes nothing, and gets me stressed too, or puts me at risk. Life's too short to prove a point :)
I wish I was as laid back as you are !
 
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