WWE's Chris Beniot & family found dead.

dmpoole said:
Just remember the next thread about some chavs beating up an old woman or some paedo killing a child - I'll just reply "Well we don't really know what was going through their mind so we can't judge".

If they have serious mental issues (maybe from abuse or violence earlier in life for example) then surly you can see the shades of grey rather than black and white?
 
dmpoole said:
Don't be a child, you won't get very far on here if you think people with more post counts know more than you.

Very far on here? I dont get what that means TBH. I have a life outside a forum, I just come here to have a read occasionally, offer tech advise and sell a few things in the MM. 15000+ post suggests you maybe need to get out a bit more instead of trying 'to get far in here!' LOL

"He was sick, a murderer and now thankfully dead - rot in hell weirdo." Thats what you said wasnt it ?

Maybe someone with a lesser post count would have thought twice before saying something like this. Family forum and all that - not very sensitive is it considering there appears to be a lot of people upset by this. I've reported your post as I dont think it very fitting with the ethos of these forums.
 
benktlottie said:
Yeah rot in hell Chris Benoit! Yeah !!! What a callous thing to say. :rolleyes:

The only callous thing that I can see here is that he killed his 7 year old son along with his wife. If this was a general member of the public he would have been condemned from the off. Just because he is famous I don't see why he is exempt from this.

benktlottie said:
I will still hold onto my belief that there could be some other mitigating circumstance that led to this...sane people just dont do what he did.

Short of mental illness, there is no circumstance that I can think of that would mitigate the killing of a 7 year old boy.

benktlottie said:
Oh Trojan and dmpoole - Sorry, I just realised. You both must be right as between you you have 20000 post to my 400...

Grow up, post count has nothing to do with this.
 
Hostile17 said:
If they have serious mental issues (maybe from abuse or violence earlier in life for example) then surly you can see the shades of grey rather than black and white?

Shades of grey yes but a murderer is still a murderer and no amount of mental problems can excuse it.
There is always a choice and he made the wrong one.
 
Trojan said:
The only callous thing that I can see here is that he killed his 7 year old son along with his wife. If this was a general member of the public he would have been condemned from the off. Just because he is famous I don't see why he is exempt from this.

Maybe, but what if he was a personal friend or family member etc? People feel like they know him personally because hes a predominant figure that people used to look up to (and watch twice a week). It's very hard to change an opinion so quick especially until ALL the facts emerge.
 
benktlottie said:
Very far on here? I dont get what that means TBH. I have a life outside a forum, I just come here to have a read occasionally, offer tech advise and sell a few things in the MM. 15000+ post suggests you maybe need to get out a bit more instead of trying 'to get far in here!' LOL

"He was sick, a murderer and now thankfully dead - rot in hell weirdo." Thats what you said wasnt it ?

Maybe someone with a lesser post count would have thought twice before saying something like this. Family forum and all that - not very sensitive is it considering there appears to be a lot of people upset by this. I've reported your post as I dont think it very fitting with the ethos of these forums.
I'm not sure what you're aiming at here, but reporting posts that go to me and a few others whilst whinging about postcounts isn't the way to get ahead ;)

I don't see a problem with dmpoole's opinion nor the fact that he's sharing it. The guy killed his wife and young son in cold blood, no matter whether you're a fan or not it is inexcusable. If there's a hell he's there.
 
Trojan said:
The only callous thing that I can see here is that he killed his 7 year old son along with his wife. If this was a general member of the public he would have been condemned from the off. Just because he is famous I don't see why he is exempt from this.

Because he was loved by thousands of wrestling fans who have a tainted view on him and because of his (apparent) lack of previous violent history, which is only coming into public view now thanks to the murders.

It'll take time for it to sink in to his fans what has happened and I think WWE will have to be very careful about the possible steroid link, especially after what happened with Eddie Guerrero. The fans could easy backlash against them.
 
benktlottie said:
Very far on here? I dont get what that means TBH. I have a life outside a forum, I just come here to have a read occasionally, offer tech advise and sell a few things in the MM. 15000+ post suggests you maybe need to get out a bit more instead of trying 'to get far in here!' LOL

Well besides playing in a rock band 2/3 times a week, practising with same band, going out on at least a 3 mile run everyday, fixing everybodies computers, bringing up a family and working 9 hours a day (on holiday for two weeks) - I think I deserve my relaxing time in front of a computer.
The 'far in here' quote was the wrong one but you have the wrong attitude if you think I know more than you because I have a bigger willy.
Grow up.

Gilly said:
I'm not sure what you're aiming at here, but reporting posts that go to me and a few others whilst whinging about postcounts isn't the way to get ahead ;)

Now that is pure gold :eek:
 
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Hostile17 said:
Maybe, but what if he was a personal friend or family member etc? People feel like they know him personally because hes a predominant figure that people used to look up to (and watch twice a week). It's very hard to change an opinion so quick especially until ALL the facts emerge.

I don't know about you, but I'd be MORE angry and condemning if a close friend or loved one did something like this.
 
dmpoole said:
Shades of grey yes but a murderer is still a murderer and no amount of mental problems can excuse it.
There is always a choice and he made the wrong one.

LOL What a load of rubbish! So, someone with a mental illness like schizophrenia who hears a voice that tells them to kill, they listen to the voice, and then go an kill someone. Youre telling me they made the wrong choice? Even though its a mental illness and they have no control?
 
benktlottie said:
LOL What a load of rubbish! So, someone with a mental illness like schizophrenia who hears a voice that tells them to kill, they listen to the voice, and then go an kill someone. Youre telling me they made the wrong choice? Even though its a mental illness and they have no control?

I have more post counts than you so be quiet.
 
Gilly said:
I'm not sure what you're aiming at here, but reporting posts that go to me and a few others whilst whinging about postcounts isn't the way to get ahead ;)

I don't see a problem with dmpoole's opinion nor the fact that he's sharing it. The guy killed his wife and young son in cold blood, no matter whether you're a fan or not it is inexcusable. If there's a hell he's there.

I thought it was a very insensitive thing to say though mate.
 
Trojan said:
I don't know about you, but I'd be MORE angry and condemning if a close friend or loved one did something like this.

It would be hard to wipe out an entire history with someone because of one event that also included their death IMHO. If it involved victims that were close to me however that would be an emotionally based exception.
 
Hostile17 said:
If they have serious mental issues (maybe from abuse or violence earlier in life for example) then surly you can see the shades of grey rather than black and white?

Yes he had mental issues, he was a grown man who does pantomime 365 days a year.

Anyway joking aside, a pleb in the purest sense of the word, ta ta.
A sad story he had to take others with him.
 
benktlottie said:
I thought it was a very insensitive thing to say though mate.
If relations of the wrestler in question were on this board then I could understand your point.

As it is no-one knew him as far as I can see. Its just an opinion, nothing personal to anyone here.
 
This has gone way off topic. Schizophrenia, drug abuse causing mental problems, stop clutching at straws.

The only sympathy anybody should feel right now should be for his wife and child. End of story.

If he had simply taken his own life then sympathy for him could be justified. Sadly it wasn't enough to just kill himself, it's hard to feel anything close to sympathy for someone who would murder his own children, let alone his wife.
 
The news on this was so slow in coming from official sources that I believed for several long hours that it was a hoax.

It saddens me that there are so many people who see fit to judge, before a verdict has been reached in a court of law. One of the most important principles of how justice works within our law, and theirs incidentally, is that defendants are deemed neither innocent nor guilty until a verdict is made in court.

It is a shame that so few people seem able to adhere to, or even remember, that principle.
 
How is it out of character when his wife had complained about cruel treatment and tried to get away previously?

she must have known he was a bit strange. heck she married a pumped up steroid driven maniac, and thought this would be the perfect partner and father for her child? very strange.

why did she go back to him/stay with him when that had occured previously? put herself and the kid at risk, for what, money?
 
Deadly Ferret said:
The news on this was so slow in coming from official sources that I believed for several long hours that it was a hoax.

It saddens me that there are so many people who see fit to judge, before a verdict has been reached in a court of law. One of the most important principles of how justice works within our law, and theirs incidentally, is that defendants are deemed neither innocent nor guilty until a verdict is made in court.

It is a shame that so few people seem able to adhere to, or even remember, that principle.

Fair point, but by the time all that rolls around even the fans of him wont remember this thread (or start another in it's place).

So for me posting comment is just responding to the now in GD :).
 
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