X1900 ... what is known ?

D.P. · 17 Jan 2006 at 19:35

Vogon said:
Yep thats what I meant .. and yes it may be pricier, but i already have an X1800XT and an A64-4000 ... so an X1800 crossfire card would be cheaper than buying an X1900 and having to buy an FX60 to let it breath .... sure the crossfire set-up will be CPU limited too .. but from what I have seen circa 13k on x18 crossfire /w A64-4000 all stock, with x19 and FX60 stock giving circa 12k and between 700-800 pts of that is down to the dual cores ...

The point I was making, anyone in my situation looking for more performance would be better off in performance and money terms buying the x18 crossfire edition.

(Unless the actual games results buck the indications of the leaked benchies that is).

That is the whole idea of SLI/Crossfire, well done on the purchase.
A new gfx card is never twice the previous, you will just gain features if anything.

Vogon · 17 Jan 2006 at 20:15

No purchase yet ... just a train of thought ATM ... I will see if I feel like going crossfire, staying with what I have, or buying an X1900 when NDA's are lifted, and finances are decided (for some reason the wife feels a new bathroom is more important ... cuh women!

).

Goksly · 17 Jan 2006 at 20:38

D.P. said:
The move to the Low-K 0.09um process from the standard .11u process.

I knew I had forgotten something... yeah that will defo account for the clock speed increase i guess

fornowagain · 19 Jan 2006 at 18:46

Not long now.

Sapphire XTX spec or XT. Crossfire The XTX looks like a complete waste of money, what's the point? hardly any clock in it.

ajgoodfellow · 19 Jan 2006 at 18:51

48 Pixel Pipelines? :eek:

Never really thought it'd be that high - I thought it'd be like the X1800XT rumoured to have 24 pipes but arrived with 16!

chaparral · 19 Jan 2006 at 18:53

ajgoodfellow said:
48 Pixel Pipelines?

Never really thought it'd be that high - I thought it'd be like the X1800XT rumoured to have 24 pipes but arrived with 16!

It's not pipeslines..It's 48 pixel shaders

fornowagain · 19 Jan 2006 at 18:55

chaparral said:
It's not pipeslines..It's 48 pixel shaders

Take that up with Sapphire, that's what is says.

ajgoodfellow · 19 Jan 2006 at 18:57

I thought 16 pipes, 48 pixel shaders too but as stated above that's what Sapphire says

Sir Random · 19 Jan 2006 at 20:26

fornowagain said:
Not long now.

Sapphire XTX spec or XT. Crossfire The XTX looks like a complete waste of money, what's the point? hardly any clock in it.

They've removed all info from those pages

Did anyone make a copy of the specs??

Gerard · 19 Jan 2006 at 20:42

X1900XT
--------------------------
625 MHz Core
512 MB @ 1450 MHz
256-bit Memory Interface
48 Pixel Pipes

X1900XTX
--------------------------
650 MHz Core
512 MB @ 1500 MHz
256-bit Memory Interface
48 Pixel Pipes

Overlag · 19 Jan 2006 at 21:07

Gerard said:
X1900XT
--------------------------
625 MHz Core
512 MB @ 1450 MHz
256-bit Memory Interface
48 Pixel Pipes

X1900XTX
--------------------------
650 MHz Core
512 MB @ 1500 MHz
256-bit Memory Interface
48 Pixel Pipes

the speed differences between those two are almost nothing, why would anyone buy a X1900XTX

ajgoodfellow · 19 Jan 2006 at 21:20

To have the fastest ATI card at stock?

It does seem a really tiny increase though

fornowagain · 19 Jan 2006 at 21:32

Like I said earlier, not much point getting the XTX. Maybe it was a typo, the specs were only up for a couple of hours.

Sapphire X1900 XTX Specifications

RADEON™ X1900 XTX core (650MHz)
512MB GDDR3 onboard memory (1500MHz)

Sapphire RADEON X1900 XT Specifications

RADEON™ X1900 XT core (625MHz)
512MB GDDR3 onboard memory (1450MHz)

Sapphire RADEON X1900 CrossFire Edition Specifications

RADEON™ X1900 XT core (625MHz) CrossFire Edition
512MB GDDR3 onboard memory (1450MHz)

Vogon · 19 Jan 2006 at 21:39

Perhaps the XTX are using the higher yield cores/mem .... and the XT are on the edge @ XTX speeds ?
As mentioned its not worth the difference, that difference is tiny.
Unless the XTX is going to clock big time and the XT wont ...

Not that we know what the price difference is either yet ...

roadie · 19 Jan 2006 at 21:42

All I care about is when the XL version comes out. Hopefully nVidia will hurry up and release more of their 0.09n offerings and hurry ATI along. I need an upgrade.

fornowagain · 19 Jan 2006 at 21:50

roadie said:
All I care about is when the XL version comes out. Hopefully nVidia will hurry up and release more of their 0.09n offerings and hurry ATI along. I need an upgrade.

Sounds like the XL is just a down clocked XT as they can't block the pipes. One site down clocked an XT to XL speeds and it still scored 10K 3marks05.

AWPC · 19 Jan 2006 at 22:36

Clockspeeds I have seen reported are XT=725/1450 XTX=775/1550. Varies though as ATI have encouraged the vendors to clock higher than stock as it can handle it apparently!

Cannot post link but have just seen 11692 3DM05 as the tops for a single X1900XT on oced AMD FX55 @2.85Ghz.

Stock FX55 = 10500 3DM05
Stock FX53 = 10200 3DM05

fornowagain · 19 Jan 2006 at 22:41

Want to know how the X1900XT compares to the X1800XT?

X1900XT FX60 (2.6GHz, 625/1450) = X1800XT Opty 170 (2.6GHz, 817/1962)

Scored 5350 approx in 3dmark06.

fornowagain · 19 Jan 2006 at 23:41

Review X1900XT vs 7800GTX 256MB

AWPC · 19 Jan 2006 at 23:57

fornowagain said:
Review X1900XT vs 7800GTX 256MB

So the 7800GTX256 is well beaten in most of the tests but reading between the lines I strongly suspect that the GTX512 will still be the daddy in single card mode. However, enabling AA will probably mean the 2 are very closely matched.

Catalyst 6.1 not picking it up is a little worrying. Wonder if they will fix this by next Monday!