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X1900XT now or wait for DirectX10

LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah, but we all know theres gona be no point in that if his x1800 or whatever is hammering through his games maxed out, if hes getting say 80+, anyone can play games at 80+, so why bother with a £400 card to get say 90+, may as well just get the £150 card and happily game at 80+ than spend £400 to do 90+. :D
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It doesn't make sense,

Why get a top card at all then?

X1800 quite frankly do not run games at high resolutions with AA and AF.

Stop justifying your x1800.

50 quid more gets you the x1900 xt a FAR faster Card.
 
shrek2 said:
In games like cod2, the extra 512mb make a hell of a difference especially if you play with AA and AF. I have just upgraded form a 7800gtx 256mb to a 7900gtx and the chopiness has gone.
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So, have you downclocked your 7900gtx then? If not, your comparison is absolutely rubbish

EDIT: I agree with easyrider, loadsamoney raises his card to the heaven in every single possible thread on this forum :eek:
 
easyrider said:
It doesn't make sense,

Why get a top card at all then?

X1800 quite frankly do not run games at high resolutions with AA and AF.

Stop justifying your x1800.

50 quid more gets you the x1900 xt a FAR faster Card.
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Depends on the resolution, TFT here 1280x1024, no point getting an x1900, my x1800 copes fine at that resolution, i play games maxed no problems with AA/AF fine, Oblivion maxed out 2xAA/16xAF + HDR plays fine. :)

If he uses higher resolutions then yes get an x1900 as it will obvioulsy be FAR faster as you say, but if your stuck at 1280x1024, no point, which he has already said he is. :)

Theres loads of ppl on here with x1800's who will tell you an x1800 can play games maxed out in 1280x1024 with some AA/AF on fine, because they can. :)

I dont see what the problem is in trying to save someone some money, i wasn't the one who told him to ge the x1800, as you will see i already said the x1900, someone else said the x1800, and he had already gone for that before i posted about how it can run fine at 1280x1024, so sablabra you wanna get to Specsavers as if i raised my card to the heavens in every thread like this as you say, then i would have surely said don't get the 1900 get the x1800, but as you can see from above, i didn't, i did say x1900.

Even Gibbo has said theres no point, and to get the x1800 at his resolution, you would think he would just tell him to get the x1900 so he can get £50 more out of him, but he hasn't, as he knows theres no point the x1800 will run 1280x1024 fine.
 
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I still stand by what I said,

50 quid more gets you the x1900 xt a FAR faster Card.

Has 512mb ram for 50 quid more will last longer allow more AA and AF and will be a far better bet for future titles.

It also helps if he upgrades to a bigger better monitor in the future.

An x1800 on a 20" widescreen nope! :(

an 1900 xt for 50 quid more yep :D
 
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I understand whay your saying, but hes already said hes using 1280x1024, he may decide to go for a bigger monitor further down the line when he gets a new card, we do not know. :)
 
Shall I clarify ;) Yes I will get a bigger monitor in the future, a 1920*1200 Widescreen, some day. Right now they are just too expensive. When I can afford one I'll get one and DX10 card to match. By the time I get a new monitor we will probably be on to about 4th or 5th gen DX10 cards, my 9800 has lasted for 3 years.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
I dont see what the problem is in trying to save someone some money.

I understand whay your saying, but hes already said hes using 1280x1024, he may decide to go for a bigger monitor further down the line when he gets a new card...
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But have you?

If he got the x1900 he could upgrade his monitor without the need to upgrade his card aswell.This in the long run saves him money. ;)

Get it?
 
Metallifux said:
Shall I clarify ;) Yes I will get a bigger monitor in the future, a 1920*1200 Widescreen, some day. Right now they are just too expensive. When I can afford one I'll get one and DX10 card to match. By the time I get a new monitor we will probably be on to about 4th or 5th gen DX10 cards, my 9800 has lasted for 3 years.
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I would have spent the extra 50 quid tbh.

Worth it for so much more speed and so little more outlay.
Another thing that has been overlooked is the resale value of the cards in question.

X1800 have lost massive ammounts on the secondhand market.
X1900's will still command good prices making the shift to DX 10 even cheaper when the time comes.
 
easyrider said:
I would have spent the extra 50 quid tbh.

Worth it for so much more speed and so little more outlay.
Another thing that has been overlooked is the resale value of the cards in question.

X1800 have lost massive ammounts on the secondhand market.
X1900's will still command good prices making the shift to DX 10 even cheaper when the time comes.
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Valid points, but as I already stated my shift to DX10 will now be a long time to come plus my old cards just get moved down to my lesser specced machines. What is my 9800 going to be worth, next to nothing, my Ge Force 3, I'd have to pay someone to take it. Lets not mention the emergency Banshee.
 
Easyrider,

Quantify far faster and so much more speed ? All the reviews comparing the cards i have seen show only 5-10 fps difference and in a few games the X1800XT beats the 1900XT. I have an X1800XT 512MB and as loadsamoney says it handles everythin fine at medium resolutions. I run at 1366x768 on my 32" screen and play eveything maxxed and im a big gamer. £50 is £50 if the card runs everythin fine at the resolution of his monitor why waste £50?

Sorry mate but i think youve been brainwashed by the must upgrade for a few fps marketing that fuels the industry. I used to be the same lol so i cant really talk but I choose more carefully now and i wont upgrade till DX10.

Metallifux i think you made the right choiced mate ;)

Cheers,
Hugest
 
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Hugest_UK said:
Easyrider,

Quantify far faster and so much more speed ? All the reviews comparing the cards i have seen show only 5-10 fps difference and in a few games the X1800XT beats the 1900XT.
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Really?.....lol

1800 xt beats an x1900 xt? hmm.....lol :D

Hugest_UK said:
I have an X1800XT 512MB and as loadsamoney says it handles everythin fine at medium resolutions. I run at 1366x768 on my 32" screen and play eveything maxxed and im a big gamer. £50 is £50 if the card runs everythin fine at the resolution of his monitor why waste £50?
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Thats funny as I can't play games maxed out with a 7900 GTX and a conroe @ 3.8ghz at 1600x 1200

Hugest_UK said:
Sorry mate but i think youve been brainwashed by the must upgrade for a few fps marketing that fuels the industry. I used to be the same lol so i cant really talk but I choose more carefully now and i wont upgrade till DX10.
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Your card is slow,Just like a my 2.8ghz opty 170 dual core last system that conroe replaced.

Brainwashed is nothing more than you knowing nothing about new technology.
I'm sorry and with all due respect, I want more speed, x1800 is an old card and the fact that you make it known that yours is a 512mb model when all see this as futile, and makes no difference, does not make your statement any more valid than mine.


The fact that you bought an x 1800 with 512mb ram makes you no more than brainwashed yourself.
 
easyrider said:
Thats funny as I can't play games maxed out with a 7900 GTX and a conroe @ 3.8ghz at 1600x 1200
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Somethings a bit iffy then, the only game where I would imagine you would struggle would be Oblivion.

Although I suppose it depends on what you class as playable.
 
With regards to the OP - when DX10 cards arrive my concern is the used DX9 market will be saturated and we will struggle selling cards we're spending £200+ on now. Who will want a DX9 card in 6-12 months?

Having said that it is very tempting - especially the deal on the X1900XT-X. I have to agree with easyrider on his points too. What's £50 when you get a much better card?
 
there is nothing wrong with the X1800XT. at the resolution you want i can play anything full whack. :)

maybe when i actually can afford a monitor to take advantage of a faster card i might.... but then i'm not big on spending money.

you will lose less money on an X1800 than an X1900 simply because the X1800 is so cheap it has less to lose.
 
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