X360 or PS3?

SK07 said:
Lots of opinions.

Even though the PS3 is expensive the Blu-Ray drive (even though not fully used) alone costs a bomb.

One of my friends 360's broke about 2 weeks after the year warranty ran out so can be a problem. And I have heard of a lot of 360's breaking down, don't know if thats the same as the PS3?. Graphics are supposed to be almost identical? Im only lookin at buying one or the other.
Really the best bet is to go both, 360 now and PS3 later the only big title in my opinion for PS3 this year is Heavenly Sword that's the only one that grabs my attention.

Unless MGS4 comes out this year that is. Still the majority of the big guns won't be out till next year.

The 360 already has some big games and plenty more coming out in the next few months, easy decision imo the breaking down issue isn't too big a deal since you will have warranty and for 40 quid more you get 3 years or so.

I've got a PS3 and I haven't played a PS3 game on it for 3 weeks.
 
Jihad said:
Really the best bet is to go both, 360 now and PS3 later the only big title in my opinion for PS3 this year is Heavenly Sword that's the only one that grabs my attention.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma
The Darkness
R6:Vegas
GRAW2
Burnout Paradise
GTA 4
Oblivion
Blacksite: Area 51
MGS(ive heard end of this year?)
Stranglehold (I think?)


Most of them on the 360, true, but for an extra £100 or so you can have the majority of the better 360 games of the 360s range and a blu ray player. If youll use blu ray then its worth it, if your not bothered then go 360 IMO. The so called lack of games isnt as lacking as a lot of people make out.
 
^Point taken, thanks.

Is it ok on a non-hd tv. Or does it not look so great. I have a 32" Sony but it's not an HD TV.
 
Stellios said:
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
The Darkness
R6:Vegas
GRAW2
Burnout Paradise
GTA 4
Oblivion
Blacksite: Area 51
MGS(ive heard end of this year?)
Stranglehold (I think?)


Most of them on the 360, true, but for an extra £100 or so you can have the majority of the better 360 games of the 360s range and a blu ray player. If youll use blu ray then its worth it, if your not bothered then go 360 IMO. The so called lack of games isnt as lacking as a lot of people make out.
A few of them were out on the 360 ages ago and anyway I was talking about the upcoming games not the games currently out. :p

Still, really the 360 offers so much August onwards, not to be missed imo.

If you're going by lineup this year the 360 wins and of course it does already have a bunch of games out to begin with.
 
Stellios said:
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
The Darkness
R6:Vegas
GRAW2
Burnout Paradise
GTA 4
Oblivion
Blacksite: Area 51
MGS(ive heard end of this year?)
Stranglehold (I think?)


Most of them on the 360, true, but for an extra £100 or so you can have the majority of the better 360 games of the 360s range and a blu ray player. If youll use blu ray then its worth it, if your not bothered then go 360 IMO. The so called lack of games isnt as lacking as a lot of people make out.

I don't expect to be buying all these games at the same time. The price per game is pretty expensive. Is blu-ray going to be the new boom by next year? Gotta admit though I am looking forward to quite a few of these games and others. Now tell me if companies start to use the SPC processor of the PS3 will games look a lot better in comparison between the 360's? at the moment they look roughly the same?
 
I have both and the PS3 has a long term future even though it is not getting the games support right now. The build quality is very high and future bluray games will make better use of the extra space whereas the 360 will either have to span games across several DVD9s or make HD-DVD only titles (unlikely). You can already see on some 360 games the texture compression to fit it all onto DVD. PS3 also makes many recent PS2 games look stunning with HDMI upscaling on the latest firmware.

When you compare the costs a 360 with a wireless network card + HD-DVD is actually more than the PS3 yet it comes with a smaller almost useless HD as once the video marketplace takes off 20GB is not going to allow you to download more than 3-4 movies.

I would expect an uprated 360 in a year or so but the PS3 in its current form will probably last 5 years.

RFOM, Motorstorm & F1 all show that PS3 is very capable. Its only a matter of time before more quality games come along as Sony have invested heavily in this but next gen software takes time and cost well into 8 figures.

360 has plenty of decent games now but it is really on borrowed time as once games outgrow the DVD9 format MS will have to make a pretty tough decision on whether or not to reduce the HD-DVD price & or include it as std on a newer 360 both options will hurt them as no-one wants to make HD-DVD games for a small number of users.
 
AWPC said:
RFOM, Motorstorm & F1 all show that PS3 is very capable. Its only a matter of time before more quality games come along as Sony have invested heavily in this but next gen software takes time and cost well into 8 figures.
Man RFOM doesn't show the PS3 is capable at all the graphics are pretty naff tbh.
 
Jihad said:
A few of them were out on the 360 ages ago and anyway I was talking about the upcoming games not the games currently out. :p

Most of those arnt out yet ;) But yeah the PS3 seems to get them after the 360.

Still, really the 360 offers so much August onwards, not to be missed imo.

Yeah, last week was a decent week for the 360, and games like test drive, PGR3, gears of war and forza 2 are ones that you have to play. I really really hope test drive comes to the PS3, but i doubt it highly/
 
PS3.
The games on PS3 havent reached what they can yet.And the 360 will be outdated by the XBOX Elite(only difference is a HDMi socket and a 120gb hard drive) If i had the choice it would be PS3 and also it has a blu ray player which will be the futre.
 
ginger_pat said:
PS3.
The games on PS3 havent reached what they can yet.And the 360 will be outdated by the XBOX Elite(only difference is a HDMi socket and a 120gb hard drive) If i had the choice it would be PS3 and also it has a blu ray player which will be the futre.
How will the Elite outdate the 360? I don't believe any games will require the HDMI socket and bigger hard drive. :rolleyes:

Blu-Ray will be the future? Blimey I wish I could see the future! :eek:
 
Hmm tough decision but I suppose its a "risk" all of you take. It's hard to predict whats going to happen or how long it will take to happen. Either way im not sure what one to get. I'd probly wait until around christmas to buying a PS3 or 360. I like the PS3 and it's games like RFOM etc look really good. But at the same time the 360 has a very good line up, but had more time to produce such a line up.

As you say about the Blu-ray capacity and it is more futureproof, I agree. But no one can predict the future or what these companies are going to do.

Im more used to the playstation as I've went through PS1, PS2 and I had an Xbox, but sold it. The original PS2 was a piece of crap due it breaking down all the time, crappy lasers or something. I have the slimline PS2 now and it's great, great selection of games as well.

Does the PS3 have any problems? such as the 360's with its 3 red-lights or w.e some of the problems I've heard around of them just dieing.
 
SK07 said:
Does the PS3 have any problems? such as the 360's with its 3 red-lights or w.e some of the problems I've heard around of them just dieing.

I've not had any problems or heard anything that's happened to them.
 
SK07 said:
Does the PS3 have any problems? such as the 360's with its 3 red-lights or w.e some of the problems I've heard around of them just dieing.
Not as frequent as the 360 red lights but quite a few have broken down here and there.

A friend who works at GAME had more PS3's being returned than 360's on some weeks. (Only 1 or 2)
 
It's very hard to know which is a longer term bet, it's clear both are going to do really well..

I don't subscribe to the 'quality' arguments of the PS3, thin shiny black plastic with spray on chrome on plastic highlights is more cheap chinese DVD player then esoteric.. Under my TV the PS3 fits in with none of my more expensive kit, However it is more reliable for sure

I'd probably give the nod to the PS3 as selling more units in the long term, but that's in 2-3 years, every analyst has said this, and I see no reason to doubt them, the PS2 loyalty base is large, and when the PS3 is cheaper I am sure this fact will assist Sony's sales..
 
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AWPC said:
360 has plenty of decent games now but it is really on borrowed time as once games outgrow the DVD9 format MS will have to make a pretty tough decision on whether or not to reduce the HD-DVD price & or include it as std on a newer 360 both options will hurt them as no-one wants to make HD-DVD games for a small number of users.

This really is on a non issue that has been blown all out of proportion. Some games on the 360 may need to appear on more than one disk - whoopdeedoo.

The reason i'm not playing my PS3 at the moment is simply because there's very little to play. There have been some ok games - Resistance, Motorstorm etc - but nothing that stands out or justifies the purchase. Every time another 'exclusive' makes its way to the 360 I resent my PS3 just a little more. GTA, DMC4, and other Sony staples, have jumped ship. I think it's fair to say that the majority of the decent looking PS3 games on the way are also appearing on the 360. Of course, you could say the reverse is the true, which it is (although to a lesser extent imo), but that isn't the point. The PS3 is the more expensive and recent console and looks like it's going to be playing catch up to the 360 for quite some time.

As I mentioned earlier, i'm a little disappointed with the PS3, so take what I say with a pinch of salt, but when comparing the PS3 to the 360, and taking into account the online services, games availble now and those announced over the next year or two, it'd pick the 360 without hesitation. Movie wise, HDVD is region free, cheaper and (imo) has a far, far better selection. My PS3 isn't even being used that much as a movie player.
 
SK07 said:
Whats your opinion on the PS3 since you have one?

A brilliant machine with better build quality than the 360 and a lot of potential to be amazing. Sony are regularly releasing updates to impove capability within the machine and so far all its done is get better.

A fair range of good fun games, and to my opinion they run smoother on the PS3 (ive tried Virtua tennis, COD3 and R6:Vegas on both machines). The 360 is a bit more user friendly to use and set up, but if you know what your doing then you will encounter no problems.

The blu ray player is great, if you have a HDTV then you will notice the difference in quality, only problem being blu rays films are expensive to buy at present.

The controller does not have interchangable power packs, so you need to have the controller charged to play. The charging cable supplied with the PS3 is a tad short, but is easily extended with a USB cable extension. The battery hold for a fair while, a few hours more than the 360 at a guess, and charges a lot faster too at about 1 and a half hours to fully charge it.

The build quality of the console is spot on, the touch sensitive buttons are something you never really get sick of playing with and the drawless drive makes the ps3 feel like high quality product. Its a very very quiet machine, a lot more silent then a 360, but once you have the sound on you dont notice that much anyways.

Online is decent, but could be vastly improved, and i have no doubt in my mind sony will improve the console to be brilliant online. Download speeds are spot on, my line maxes out when downloading off the PS store. A lot of games on the PS3 i believe use sony as a host for a server, unlike xbox live where you host it via your console, which means that you get considerably less lag on a lot of games.

Having use of the internet browser is brilliant, its definately an excellent addition to the PS3s capabilities. I only really use it for basic browsing and running internet line tests, but its certainly a good feature to have.

Extras. You into racing games? Microsoft requires you to use a wheel designed for the 360, whereas the PS3 doesnt, i plugged up my old logitech wheel on GT:HD and off i went, no drivers, no calibration, just tell it in the options your on a wheel and off you go.

Also, will you be looking to use a wireless connection? If so then you will need to buy a wireless adapter for your 360, which retail at around £59.99, however it comes as standard with the UKs PS3.

I do have some gripes however, mainly with sony being tight in what you get with the console. Your buying an expensive console, that is designed around HD, yet sony neglect to give you an HD cable, you get and RGB connection cable with the converter to take it to scart, you need to buy an HDMI/component cable seperately. Same with voice comms; the PS3 uses a bluetooth headset to chat, so sony decided not to give you one, instead you need to buy it seperately. However i believe Warhawk will have them in the box when you buy the game (dont hold me to that). Another thing is a lack of ethernet cable, with the 360 you get a nice long RJ45 cable for getting onto xbox live, with the PS3 you dont get a cable, i presume this is due to it being wireless, but its nice to have all the same.

Some games on the 360 may need to appear on more than one disk - whoopdeedoo.

Not its not whoopdedoo, and its not excusable IMO. These are 'next gen' consoles. Id expect to have to switch disks on a PS2/dreamcast, but not on a 360 or PS3. I believe it was Driver 2 that used 2 disks on the PS2, and it was a graet annoyance every time you drove to the other half of the map to have to change disks.
 
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PS3 can't be faulted for the build quality it's very well made the front flap hiding the card reader feel very solid as does the rest of the machine.
But then again I don't see anything wrong with my 360' build quality either, both are very solid and feel well made.

It's a hefty machine though the PS3 and the slick looks will be something you're proud to look at.

I do like the no-tray drive that's ace.
 
Stellios said:
Not its not whoopdedoo, and its not excusable IMO. These are 'next gen' consoles. Id expect to have to switch disks on a PS2/dreamcast, but not on a 360 or PS3. I believe it was Driver 2 that used 2 disks on the PS2, and it was a graet annoyance every time you drove to the other half of the map to have to change disks.

Each to their own.

Disk swapping features way down on my list of priorities (although I admit the Driver example is annoying - for many games such as FF it's far less of an issue). I also doubt that many 360 games won't fit onto a single dvd.

What's of more concern is where the decent games are and how long it'll take for them to arrive. The moaning will cease when I have something to play.
 
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