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Xbox 360 Slim?
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They should just use a laptop disk drive, and do away with the worry of accommodating a full size 5.25" bay.
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DLC is tied to your gamertag so it will all work as long as you're logged in.
It's also tied to your console id and this can be changed once a year on the xbox site.
So you can either redownload the DLC or copy it on to a USB stick when the new update has been released.
Yeah, I also know enough about the 360 to know the reliability is/was atrocious.
I wasn't actually aware of another process shrink, before you jump further down my throat Mr. Kre.
Lol, cute
I would run a CAT5 cable round my house.
I dont get what the big deal is with cabling your house. I have a TV point in every room and at least 1 cat5 socket in every room. Its 2010 not 1970, its about time people realised that structured cabling (whether it is AV, Cat5 or RF) is a normal requirement in a hosue these days. Even my 72 year old father has a Cat5 network.
The wireless spectrum is becomming more and more saturated these days, leading to more interference and poorer and poorer reception. To make matters worse the PS3's wireless is very sensitive, my macbook pro (at home) can detect 6 maybe 7 Wireless SSID's, the PS3 gets over 13.
I really dont want drop-outs when I am gaming, hence I use CAT5. Its cheap as chips, easy to install and about 50x faster than wireless (and far more secure). Yes I do have wireless at home, infact I have 2 separate networks, a b/g one and an n one, but they only get used for my wii, my MBP, the wife's laptop, my iphone and the Logitec internet radio.
TBH I am glad that MS dont automatically include the wireless in the XBox, as if you cant get a hardwired connection to it via cat5, powerline adapters are a better investment than using wireless. The XBox does a very nice job as a media receiver for streaming media, particularly full 1080p HD content, wireless is knda flakey for full 1080p streaming (even over 'n') You really do need a hardwired connection to take full advantage of this capability.
And no you dont need a 'gigabit' lan. Bog standard 100Mbs switch and Cat5e cabling will quite happily cope with multiple streams from the same source.
Oh and I have a VERY fussy wife, hence there are no Cat5 cables snaking anywhere around the house.
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Everybody is saying 'OMG this will stop the RROD', but the Jasper has already pretty much done that. The failure rate of the Jasper is reported to be less than 4%, and of that 4% most faults are with the DVD drive.
This is simply about making the 360 cheaper to produce. I'm not surprised at all, in fact last year I predicted this in a thread about Natal, I said something along the lines of 'Natal will be released along with a new, cheaper cooler running 360, maybe a 360 slim'
Makes sense for MS to do this, a kind of soft relaunch along with Natal and perhaps another price drop
Nice to see somebody talking complete sense!
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Come on...You're happy it doesnt have wireless as a feature. how can you possibly be happy about that.
Maybe you're content with the fact its a lacking feature. But seriously theres no good in the fact its not there is there.
Maybe you're content with the fact its a lacking feature. But seriously theres no good in the fact its not there is there.
Really?
CAT5 is 25 years old, what are you taking about.
I'm not surprised it's a well old technology.
This is complete nonsense. The exact opposite is happening. And how is that even an issue? Why don't you just select the SSID that is yours?
I really dont want drop-outs when I am gaming, hence I use CAT5. Its cheap as chips, easy to install and about 50x faster than wireless (and far more secure). Yes I do have wireless at home, infact I have 2 separate networks, a b/g one and an n one, but they only get used for my wii, my MBP, the wife's laptop, my iphone and the Logitec internet radio.
For online gaming though you are not using any more bandwidth than your ISP can provide (obviously). Which is much less than a b/g router can handle. You've just named 5 things that are on wireless as well, so how many devices do you have on CAT5?
TBH I am glad that MS dont automatically include the wireless in the XBox, as if you cant get a hardwired connection to it via cat5, powerline adapters are a better investment than using wireless. The XBox does a very nice job as a media receiver for streaming media, particularly full 1080p HD content, wireless is knda flakey for full 1080p streaming (even over 'n') You really do need a hardwired connection to take full advantage of this capability.
And no you dont need a 'gigabit' lan. Bog standard 100Mbs switch and Cat5e cabling will quite happily cope with multiple streams from the same source.
Oh and I have a VERY fussy wife, hence there are no Cat5 cables snaking anywhere around the house.
Mushii
The convenience benefits of wireless are just way too substantial for it too be outshadowed by a slightly more stable option of CAT5.
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What size does the PS3 use? I always thought that was smaller than a standard 5.25" drive?
EDIT: It seems it's proprietary so it's not too much to assume Microsoft could do the same.
The big xbox requires a high read/rpm rate to be able to play from the disk drive, hence why it was so loud. If it was a laptop drive you may have to install to the hard drive because of it being half as fast as the desktop drive. I'm not sure they'd want to make you install to the hard drive. But with the rumours of there being a second SATA port on the motherboard it may be a possibility as there is a inbuilt hard drive.
To Drexel, would they want a laptop drive being maxed about all the time? Wouldn't that cause a lot of wear and tear?
The same could be said for the current 5.25" drives though. They are 12x max, and they run at that speed as and when needed.
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Installing to the hard drive works well for me (on a PS3).
Ok, so you lose 10-15 minutes installing games, but if they allow user upgradeable hard drives then the extra space pretty much makes that a non-issue. Even then, I'd still maintain laptop drives would be fine
Ok, so you lose 10-15 minutes installing games, but if they allow user upgradeable hard drives then the extra space pretty much makes that a non-issue. Even then, I'd still maintain laptop drives would be fine
The irony is that you are being narrow minded for not tolerating my opinion.
I have been there and done that with the 360 and I think some of what I have said is very true and stands for many peoples opinions over the 360 recently and it's lack of good big budget microsoft backed exclusives.
The money would be better spent on making some great games than introducing a slim 360 not as though the 360 in it's current state is massive.
Wont call you a moron though as that would be rude.
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Really?
This is complete nonsense. The exact opposite is happening. And how is that even an issue? Why don't you just select the SSID that is yours?
OK if you want to be a pendant about it, the 2.4ghz spectrum is heavily impacted upon by third party (non-wifi) products, that cause substantial ammounts of interference, particularly in urban areas, causing drop-outs of signals and in some circumstances no reception at all. If you want the source of this information it is OFCOM's own comissioned report by Mass Consultants. The report can be found here: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/technology/research/exempt/wifi/wfiutilisation.pdf
I am not sure where your source of information is that the 2.4ghz spectrum is becomming less congested though. If you are referning to 802.11n only using a single 2.4ghz channel, it will be a long time before many people ditch their a/b/g routers / WAPs as well as all those devices that still use non-'n' connections.
The convenience benefits of wireless are just way too substantial for it too be outshadowed by a slightly more stable option of CAT5.
That is a matter of opinion, not fact. Wireless is a convenient medium for some applications, I do not believe that it is an ideal medium for streaming media and connection critical applications like gaming, where interuptions in data often result in disconnection from the service. I sometimes lose connection to one or both of my WAPs resulting that my devices go hunting for other SSIDs to connect to.
And the reason I am glad that the XBox 360 doesnt ship with it, is so I dont have to pay for it. Why pay for something that I will never use ?
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So you're happy with it not having the feature because you feel the addition would have boosted the price up of the console. Do you think the price difference would have been that much if it was actually built in to the design?
It would not have been, It certainly wouldnt have cost the £40 it costs now.
All peripherals for the xbox 360 are so ludicrously over priced, and although optional, you can see the method in which microsoft planned to make money while initially pricing the 360 itself low.
The addition of built in wireless would have saved the consumer money, but it would have seen Microsoft out of pocket £40 per wireless adapter sold.
It would not have been, It certainly wouldnt have cost the £40 it costs now.
All peripherals for the xbox 360 are so ludicrously over priced, and although optional, you can see the method in which microsoft planned to make money while initially pricing the 360 itself low.
The addition of built in wireless would have saved the consumer money, but it would have seen Microsoft out of pocket £40 per wireless adapter sold.
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