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What's your logic?
**XBOX ONE** Official Thread
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What's your logic?
No, but the news, even if it's bad news, should come from people who are interested in the product.
Why would you go into a thread about a product you don't like, and will not buy?
i don't trade games anyway, i only play a handful of games, i am more of a casual gamer and enjoy the media side of entertainment, voice commands suit my general laziness, etc etc
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Depending on how important voice commands are to you the other requirements aren't only available on Xbox One.
the integration of current media devices (sky/freeview etc) is very interesting however don't you think?
lol? The potential for losing access to all your games is fairly pertinent information. I wasn't going to buy the XB1 because of existing DRM issues, but definetly won't now.
Opening the case of your console breaches ToS IIRC correctly from Xbox 360. So in effect if they put some kind of sensor in the XB1 you could get banned for cleaning the heatsink.
Thing is though, if you are EA and believe this.
Are you going to put a copy of your game out on xbox one with lots of DRM and a copy out on PS4 with no DRM ? When you as a publisher believe its essential ?
No way is the answer. I've no idea what the DRM will be like on PS4 and XB1 games this time next year, but I bet its not what some people think it is now. This debate is going to run and run and both sides will shift their policies and ultimately meet in the middle so no publishers refuse to publish on either platform.
No publisher will refuse to release games on either platform with or without DRM. They would lose far too much money.
If they could potentially sell 5 million copies of a game on a platform without DRM then that's still £200 million+money from DLC.
Sony made a massive point of telling you that all games will be downloadable from the Playstation store on the PS4.
You can bet that the same will apply to any PS4 games you download too. Only difference will be the physical disk based games, but you'll lose multiplayer access to all of them as well
They just make that money back from Microsoft by making it an Xbox 1 exclusive. Or alternatively put that much pressure on Sony until they cave.
If people honestly believe EA, Ubisoft etc.. .. Are going to releasing DRM free games on PS4 with no online pass they've got a shock in store. Something has to give
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kitch was making it out as if it's a new problem never faced before, when PC gamers have been used to it for years with nearly absolutely no issues - that was the point I was trying to make.
It's a tough one to call really. I remember when Steam first surfaced it was hated by many, but these days it's the preferred point of sale for nearly everyone on the PC. You have to give it to Microsoft for being bold and risky, we'll just have to see if it really takes off for consoles. Sony are playing it safe with the PS4.
Me, I'm not too bothered either way, I've already bought various digital copies of games on PSN, though none of them were either expensive or full RRP
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Anyone seen this yet?
Xbox engineer reveals Microsoft’s true intentions with DRM on the Xbox One
http://vr-zone.com/articles/xbox-en...ntentions-with-drm-on-the-xbox-one/37547.html
Assuming he is genuine, the upshot is:
- MS are looking at Steam as their 'insipiration' for XB1 and want to create that kind of digital system for the XB1
- Their intension is that with Steam like account locks on games, games will become cheaper as they have done with Steam.
Overall it's a pretty good justification for the approach that MS has taken (IMO) - however what puzzles me is that as far as I can see, MS seem to has not really come out and explained the consumer benefits of their approach in the way that guy does.
If it does turn out be the case, then I can see myself being much more likely to get an XB1, but I have a feeling I'll need to wait a year or two to see how everything works out.
Xbox engineer reveals Microsoft’s true intentions with DRM on the Xbox One
http://vr-zone.com/articles/xbox-en...ntentions-with-drm-on-the-xbox-one/37547.html
Assuming he is genuine, the upshot is:
- MS are looking at Steam as their 'insipiration' for XB1 and want to create that kind of digital system for the XB1
- Their intension is that with Steam like account locks on games, games will become cheaper as they have done with Steam.
Overall it's a pretty good justification for the approach that MS has taken (IMO) - however what puzzles me is that as far as I can see, MS seem to has not really come out and explained the consumer benefits of their approach in the way that guy does.
If it does turn out be the case, then I can see myself being much more likely to get an XB1, but I have a feeling I'll need to wait a year or two to see how everything works out.
The xbox one ecosystem will end up like steam eventually. And no doubt the PS4 will too.
A few years down the line the DRM we end up with will be normal, both consoles will have roughly the same controls and this whole debate will have gone.
This bit s also potentially massive
They specifically mention taking games that hosted by clients, and hosting them on the Microsoft cloud platform, at a free cost to developers and publishers.
"The cloud capabilities is the @*%# they like the most. We basically made a huge cloud compute @%#! and made it free"
How game changing would it be if games like COD had dedicated servers on xb1 but not PS4 ??
A few years down the line the DRM we end up with will be normal, both consoles will have roughly the same controls and this whole debate will have gone.
This bit s also potentially massive
They specifically mention taking games that hosted by clients, and hosting them on the Microsoft cloud platform, at a free cost to developers and publishers.
"The cloud capabilities is the @*%# they like the most. We basically made a huge cloud compute @%#! and made it free"
How game changing would it be if games like COD had dedicated servers on xb1 but not PS4 ??
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What a load of ********. If this was the case MS could have just said that, and with the games being cheaper the gamers probably would have accepted it as a trade off. Next there going to tell us that God told them to do it for the greater good of mankind
Microsoft arent going to give the cloud over to developers for free, their kind of known for restrictive practices and charging lots for everything like patches.
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Why is it rubbish? There is plenty of talk from journalists and insiders who have said that MS have a long term strategy that they are putting over very badly, through seriously poor communication.What a load of ********. If this was the case MS could have just said that, and with the games being cheaper the gamers probably would have accepted it as a trade off. Next there going to tell us that God told them to do it for the greater good of mankind
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If I bought an Xbox One I'd probably put the Playstation in storage as I only have space for one console in this room. The whole plugging my Sky box into the Xbox isn't a big selling point at all for me personally. The box is plugged into the TV and it's one button on the remote to change channels, in fact it's probably faster just pressing one button than it is to make the gesture and then wait for something to happen on the Xbox One.
I don't really understand why it is being flaunted as a selling point, maybe there are people who can utilise it somehow but in a configuration such as mine where your box is already plugged in and not concealed I think it's pointless. I still need two devices in that cabinet either way.
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So you don't use Steam either I suppose? You break their ToS and get banned and you lose all access to those games as well.
I can't believe how some people are reacting to this news, it's so over the top. It's not surprising news in the slightest, and unless you're planning on modding your console or playing cracked games, you are in no danger of losing your access.
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It's a selling point as you can use Xbox Snap to watch TV while you're actually playing the game, or Skyping while watching Sky. It has more features than simply a pass through connection.
Awww, is nasty man saying bad things against the widdle precious?
Seriously dude, chill. Up until the reveal I'd decided I was going Xbox because that's what all my mates were doing. After the reveal and all that has transpired I'm actually horrified at what the industry's trying to do to our hobby.
Microsoft or anyone who tries to do what is currently being attempted deserves all they get. People who actually try to justify this behavior, again deserve all they get also. If Sony did the same things I would in the PS4 thread whining about them also, the fact they aren't means I not, it means they get my money by default.
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