**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

[Glaucus]

Whilst I'll give MS huge props for listening to customers and changing things I still think they made a huge mess of communicating what could have been a innovative and interesting change and for that someone deserves to be sent to stand in the naughty corner (or something somewhat more painful ). I tend to think the comms messed this up, not the policy.

100% agree and this isn't the first Pr disaster, in fact MS has always been bad at PR it's just a decade again it didn't matter, there wasn't competition. Now it's a very different landscape.

 

[grimm]

Considering you're blasting them here both for their initial policies and for changing them however, you do seem to be proving the point that MS are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

That's not true at all. I could respect MS for trying something new (even if it's not what their customers want) if they actually stuck with it. Hell, maybe they'd even prove me wrong.

The only conclusions that I had made so far are that a) Microsoft doesn't understand what their customers want, and b) that their product is not for me due to the restrictive DRM.

I have no problem with people who understand the product and have decided that it is the right product for them, but they don't seem to realise that they are in the minority. Lashing out at people who they deem to be "Sony fanboys" just for criticising Microsoft (with justification), is what I have a problem with.

 

[manic111]

Current digital policies/EULA, a court case last year deemed digital should be treated like physical, ie you own the game regardless of what the terms of sale says and you can sale digital stuff second hand. MS actually tried bringing in a system that allows this and gave consumers far more rights, by going digital they where also going to introduce new consumer benefits like sharing etc, which can't be done with physical media. Basically you where getting as close to the old(physical) system as you can reasonably get and new added benefits.

Interesting! Anywhere you can link me to some more info? I'd quite like to read up about that.

 

[Pigeon_Killer]

Wonder how the peasants that don't have a good enough Internet connection will feel about this? As far as MS were concerned they weren't worth bothering about and should go and buy a Xbox 360 instead

Wasn't much the public could have misinterpreted from such a pathetic comment.

 

[Turambar]

Current digital policies/EULA, a court case last year deemed digital should be treated like physical, ie you own the game regardless of what the terms of sale says and you can sale digital stuff second hand. MS actually tried bringing in a system that allows this and gave consumers far more rights, by going digital they where also going to introduce new consumer benefits like sharing etc, which can't be done with physical media. Basically you where getting as close to the old(physical) system as you can reasonably get and new added benefits.

It was confirmed that purely digital licenses where able to be sold? I understood it only applied to licenses purchased on disc.

 

[Glaucus]

Slightly more complicated?! It was going to make it a lot more difficult, and likely more expensive to those buying them (and consequently the seller having to reduce the sale price of their used games to compensate).

And you gained massive benefits in return for a slightly harder system.
Now you and everyone else will still go digital and yet it is unlikely we will get any of these benefits at all.

 

[Craterloads]

What happens to all them clouds now, as as many here were arguing the clouds were going to make the XB1 super powerfull?

 

[dannyjo22]

Perhaps not, but MS as a company are so rich that if they really wanted to, they could have taken the hit in sales while improving and refining their policies to the point where they appealed more to the mass market. I still expect them to do that in some degree over the coming months and years.

After the money lost on the red ring I don't think the gaming division would survive another couple of years like that.

 

[Hostile_18]

Sure MS are listening to gamers now when they need them but once they have the costs down and they have casual crowd you can just tell gaming will be less and less of a priority for them. You only need to look at the broadening of focus on the 360 over the years to see that. I'm going to stick with my PS4 preorder as I feel fairly certain the exclusives will stay thick and fast through its entire life span.

 

[antijoke]

What happens to all them clouds now, as as many here were arguing the clouds were going to make the XB1 super powerfull?

Its a bright blue sky with not a cloud in sight.

 

[anything I don't mind]

What's going to bring it all together to run your games?

A non noob gamer ? a clever person ?

 

[TriedandTested]

And you gained massive benefits in return for a slightly harder system.
Now you and everyone else will still go digital and yet it is unlikely we will get any of these benefits at all.

I didn't see any massive benefits. What did i miss??!

 

[Macro]

Sure MS are listening to gamers now when they need them but once they have the costs down and they have casual crowd you can just tell gaming will be less and less of a priority for them. You only need to look at the broadening of focus on the 360 over the years to see that. I'm going to stick with my PS4 preorder as I feel fairly certain the exclusives will stay thick and fast through its entire life span.

I thought the Xbox exclusive line up and game content at E3 (once you got away from the DRM stuff) was more impressive by quite some margin to be honest.

 

[Macro]

I didn't see any massive benefits. What did i miss??!

Play your entire Xbox One game library (inc DLC) on any xbox by logging in with your account, allow up to 10 friends and family to download an play any of your games and DLC for free, not have to put a disc in the drive to play a game etc...

 

[Pigeon_Killer]

Xbox is lame, there is not one thing better about it.

Go away then

 

[Davey_Pitch]

groen - this is not the thread for comparing consoles to PCs. If you wish to do that, please start another thread. Thank you.

 

[Andybtsn]

Can we not have a boring PC vs Console debate please.

 

[JediFragger]

Ahhhhhhhhh XBone, thanks for your changes! Hacked within 6 months

 

[Soulja]

I'm almost tempted to cancel my PS4 pre-order and get the xbox My main worry now is the xbox being up to 50% less powerful.

 

[alexthecheese]

Xbone drm is a disaster, to sell something so hard with the knowledge that it is so distasteful from the off is distinctly unappealing.

Listening to their customers? Really? Don't be so naive, they would've known how unpopular it would be from the start, it was a case of convincing the public that their backward DRM market was an absolute necessity, to appease their game publishers. Thankfully the backlash has been ridiculously bad it's been ditched.

Amazed people are so forgiving.

Xbox 360 owner to ps4 owner, on principle, for me. Or a wii u.