**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

It'll always be pinging your connection and you won't know what's in the packets that's going backwards and forwards.

I really don't trust them with this. It's potentially a hugely powerful tool they have and we have to trust a mega corporations word that they won't use it.

Exactly the same with my mobile. I just have to trust 3 arent recording phone calls, skype video, the porn....news site i visit.
 
Whoever goes for blocking second hand games is making a big mistake imo.

Hopefully someone will see sense and stop this madness.

Do I have to pay a fee for a second hand movie ? or anything else for that matter ? only way it would work is if the fee is very small like £1 or something.
 
There's just so many rumours and so much scare mongering going on its hard to know what to believe.

If we believe the worst of the rumours the Xbox one will

1) render your existing headset useless
2) render your existing peripherals useless
3) block used games
4) block the renting of video games
5) watch you 24/7 using its kinect camera which can't be switched off or the console won't work.
6) will stay on 24/7 reporting back to redmond what you're doing
7) has inferior graphics power to the PS4
8) render all your existing xbox live arcade games useless
9) has to be connected to the net 24/7 or your games won't work.

Some of these will be outright wrong, others partial truths and others correct (such as the peripherals and xbox live arcade games being redundant which look pretty much confirmed)

But until we know more for definite, I'm firmly stat on the fence.

im going into production soon for the new must have for the xbox one.

Kinect Eye patch
 
Exactly the same with my mobile. I just have to trust 3 arent recording phone calls, skype video, the porn....news site i visit.

3 on the phone that isn't encrypted, can be rooted and jailbroken and runs on a open network.

Yeah that's the same. By the way Skype and your ISP do record your actions and can be given to a Judge if requested because legally that's how it is. You should be aware of that if you think your privacy is safe on Skype.

Interesting snippet today (if we can just get past the "it's a games console, it shouldn't do anything else" thing for just a sec :) ). Whatever you think on xbox one it'd be good to at least see some of the media functionality demonstrated make it to the Uk as well

From Gizmodo UK:
It seems the Xbox One sparked a twinkle in BT’s eye when Microsoft got up and started talking up all of its TV features. According to a BT spokesperson talking to TechRadar, the ISP wants to launch its free BT Sport onto the incoming console, which could mean all those fancy TV streaming features might actually make it to the UK in one guise or another.

Apparently the two have given each other the nod, with a proper discussion about getting BT Sport onto the Xbox One to come after BT manages to launch its free Sport service in two months.

During the Xbox One launch, Microsoft announced a partnership with ESPN in the US which will let users stream live sports to the console. Of course, BT holds the licence to ESPN's content in the UK, so a partnership would certainly make a lot of sense.
Yes, yes, I fully accept that some people don't like sport and just want to kill dragons on the internet ;)

Do you also accept that streaming live tv channels is already being done by the current consoles and isn't very exciting? Saying that I wonder where BT got the idea that the Xbone was all about TV from?
 
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So you are buying a Xbox One despite all the moaning?
You pulled up people before for moaning about a console they were not going to buy, now you're pulling someone up for moaning about a console they ARE going to buy.
Why don't you just let them moan? If people want to criticize something then they can...:)
 
Go on then, specs with citations?

Here's AMD confirming it's got 32MB of cache which confirms the DDR3 spec leaks and Microsoft in their own architecture panel on the reveal day confirmed 768 operations per cycle which confirms the 12 CU part of the spec leak, what else do you need confirming?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419289,00.asp

That means a "heavily customized AMD chip that combines an eight-core CPU, a GPU tailored for DirectX 11.1 graphics and 32MB of high bandwidth embedded ESRAM memory," the tech blog said.

Why is it so hard to believe that the Xbone is worse than the PS4 when it comes to specs? There is a reason Microsoft quoted the 5 billion transistors spec, it's an area where they have more than the PS4, but when you dig into it deeper you realise they have more transistors due to the amount of embedded cache.
 
Here's AMD confirming it's got 32MB of cache which confirms the DDR3 spec leaks and Microsoft in their own architecture panel on the reveal day confirmed 768 operations per cycle which confirms the 12 CU part of the spec leak, what else do you need confirming?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419289,00.asp



Why is it so hard to believe that the Xbone is worse than the PS4 when it comes to specs? There is a reason Microsoft quoted the 5 billion transistors spec, it's an area where they have more than the PS4, but when you dig into it deeper you realise they have more transistors due to the amount of embedded cache.

I am not saying the specs are not going to be worse. I kind of expect it, same price point but includes kinect. I am just tired of seeing the 20/30/50% slower numbers I keep seeing. It may well be less powerful but until we get hard facts you just cant state things like that accurately.

At the end of the day its all down to what developers do with it. Ideally decelopers would build games for the less powerful xbox, then add stuff when porting to the PS4, but are publishers going to pay for that? If they do, they are going to want that money back, so when looking games prices, and its £40 on Xbox1 and £50 on PS4, which will casual gamers go for? The majority of players don't give a flying whoohaa about specs, we are in the minority.
 
I'm expecting more games to be released on the PC next generation since the hardware of the 2 consoles is similar, I could see them having improved graphics on the PC/PS4 version and then cutting back for the Xbone version.
 
If they do, they are going to want that money back, so when looking games prices, and its £40 on Xbox1 and £50 on PS4, which will casual gamers go for? The majority of players don't give a flying whoohaa about specs, we are in the minority.

I consider myself a casual gamer, and to be honest I'd rather pay slightly more for a PS4 game that I can play anytime, anywhere, with anyone I like, can lend to friends, don't have to pay to play online and I can sell on when I'm done... and most of my friends I've spoken too on it have said similar, even those who have 360s. (which I don't but it hasn't stopped me considering pros & cons of each of the new gen)
 
I consider myself a casual gamer, and to be honest I'd rather pay slightly more for a PS4 game that I can play anytime, anywhere, with anyone I like, can lend to friends, don't have to pay to play online and I can sell on when I'm done... and most of my friends I've spoken too on it have said similar, even those who have 360s. (which I don't but it hasn't stopped me considering pros & cons of each of the new gen)

Except you don't know you can do all that on the PS4 either. Sony are being very tight lipped about it. The best I found is they are leaving it up to the publishers, which tells me the console at least has the ability to stop you, even if it's not Sony enforcing it.
 
Interesting snippet today (if we can just get past the "it's a games console, it shouldn't do anything else" thing for just a sec :) ). Whatever you think on xbox one it'd be good to at least see some of the media functionality demonstrated make it to the Uk as well

From Gizmodo UK:
It seems the Xbox One sparked a twinkle in BT’s eye when Microsoft got up and started talking up all of its TV features. According to a BT spokesperson talking to TechRadar, the ISP wants to launch its free BT Sport onto the incoming console, which could mean all those fancy TV streaming features might actually make it to the UK in one guise or another.

Apparently the two have given each other the nod, with a proper discussion about getting BT Sport onto the Xbox One to come after BT manages to launch its free Sport service in two months.

During the Xbox One launch, Microsoft announced a partnership with ESPN in the US which will let users stream live sports to the console. Of course, BT holds the licence to ESPN's content in the UK, so a partnership would certainly make a lot of sense.
Yes, yes, I fully accept that some people don't like sport and just want to kill dragons on the internet ;)

ZOMG not sports. Microsoft is ded PS4 4EVOR etc etc etc
 
Some naked shots of the new Xbone:

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I wonder howl long it will be before I see that in the flesh?!?!?
Hopefully M$ will go after Dan Henry and he activates his 'dead-man' switch, that should speed things up :-)
 
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That sounds like it could conflict with EU competition law to me.

Indeed it is.
The Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled that publishers cannot stop you from reselling your downloaded games.

More specifically: "An author of software cannot oppose the resale of his 'used' licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet."

The Court said the exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by the license is "exhausted on its first sale".

The ruling means that gamers in European Union member states are free to sell their downloaded games, whether they're from Steam, Origin or another digital platform - no matter what End User License Agreement has been signed.

The ruling continues: "Therefore, even if the licence agreement prohibits a further transfer, the rightholder can no longer oppose the resale of that copy."

The ruling suggests that if you've bought a license for a game off your mate, you're within your rights to download it from the publisher's website. "Therefore the new acquirer of the user licence, such as a customer of UsedSoft, may, as a lawful acquirer of the corrected and updated copy of the computer program concerned, download that copy from the copyright holder's website," the Court said.

Source: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-07/cp120094en.pdf
 
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