**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Yeah my PS3 slim is very quiet (compared to my Elite) and it stays pretty cool aswell.

Pretty sure both these new consoles will be fine. Can't see MS making the same mistake this time around.
 
HeX said:
If any console is going to have heat problems it'd be the PS4 with its very slimline case, which doesn't leave a lot of room for a decent cooler, not to mention it's GPU will be pulling more power due to the extra shader count. There doesn't look to be room for a big standard heatsink and slow moving large fan. I can see Sony going with a 'blower' style cooler, if so the PS4 could be a fair bit louder under load than the Xbox One. However, I don't think there are any pictures of the PS4 internals yet, so we'll have to see what they've come up with.
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Just as the Xbox One is using a similar cooling system to the 360S, the PS4 will likely be using a similar one to the PS3. The PS3 and PS3 Slim both had a massive fan inside, which seemed to do the job just fine. My PS3 Slim is quieter than my 360S anyway.

If anything the Xbox is likely to be louder because the fan noise will come straight out of the top, but I can't imagine either of them are particularly likely to suffer from heat or noise issues.
 
Macro said:
Do you have a mobile phone? Does it have a camera, microphone and data connection? If it does can you detach it or do you trust it's not broadcasting video, audio and your location back to the NSA 24x7?
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Who said anything about the NSA or microphones, really - do you read posts or just skip over them and add words yourself? I've never said anything about being spied on!

McBain said:
You can't 'perform' when someone's/something's watching? ;)
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There is always one :p
 
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niroe said:
Who said anything about the NSA or microphones, really - do you read posts or just skip over them and add words yourself? I've never said anything about being spied on!
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Then if being spied on isn't behind your hatred of cameras pointed at you, what is? You must have a reason, even one you know is illogical. I don't care what it is, I'd just love to know your reasons behind your hatred. Do you dislike pictures of yourself so much you're paranoid it'll somehow switch itself on and take a picture? Worried it'll steal your soul when you're not looking? Do you play games naked? What is the reason?
 
I have to say I don't get the paranoia about the always on camera tbh. If Microsoft wants to watch me fap in front of the TV fair doos I got nothing to hide :p Its not like I'm the only human being in the world that does it.....
 
Adsta said:
I have to say I don't get the paranoia about the always on camera tbh. If Microsoft wants to watch me fap in front of the TV fair doos I got nothing to hide :p Its not like I'm the only human being in the world that does it.....
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That's the thing, it isn't even always on when plugged in, it can still be turned off!
 
djshauny1 said:
All out on the cooling? Looks the same as the slim to me lol
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Slim heatsink is much thinner, far less fins, smaller fan, and no heat pipes for a start.

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Davey_Pitch said:
Then if being spied on isn't behind your hatred of cameras pointed at you, what is? You must have a reason, even one you know is illogical. I don't care what it is, I'd just love to know your reasons behind your hatred. Do you dislike pictures of yourself so much you're paranoid it'll somehow switch itself on and take a picture? Worried it'll steal your soul when you're not looking? Do you play games naked? What is the reason?
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Yeah I don't like pictures of myself - apart from photo's for ID (which I obviously hate but need) - there are no photo's of me from the last 20 years that I know of, I'm 35 years old, my parents, friends, nobody has a recent photo of me.

Don't care if people think it's weird, plenty of people don't like their photo being taken. So to sit in front of a camera, even with the remote possibility it could put my picture on screen, in a game, whatever - I wasn't prepared to pay money for that.
 
niroe said:
Yeah I don't like pictures of myself - apart from photo's for ID (which I obviously hate but need) - there are no photo's of me from the last 20 years that I know of, I'm 35 years old, my parents, friends, nobody has a recent photo of me.

Don't care if people think it's weird, plenty of people don't like their photo being taken. So to sit in front of a camera, even with the remote possibility it could put my picture on screen, in a game, whatever - I wasn't prepared to pay money for that.
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Then that's fine. Weird, but fine. ;) That's what I wasn't understanding though, you were just saying you hated it but didn't say why. At least I know, and I'll stop badgering you :p
 
Davey_Pitch said:
And if people had paid attention, you'd know that even at the point when the Kinect was required to be plugged in, it could be turned off. Completely off. As in not looking at you, not listening to you. Off. Yet people still complained.
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Hmmmm a company that has been complicit with the USA government in handing over information about non USA citizens. They release a console and say there is a camera and microphone that is super precise BUT you can turn it off you just need to keep it plugged in all the time.

Sounds weird to me. I agree, now they say you can physically disconnect there is no cause for complain (I guess some people will complain they are paying for an item they wont use). But their original stance was stupid (and clearly not a technical requirement as they have changed it now).

Just out of curiosity, do you use the current Kinect to voice operate your 360?

There was a big story (last year or year before) where there was a way to enable webcams on laptops without your knowledge (without turning the light on). After this a "lot" of people started covering their laptop cameras. I work in an office of about 120 people and I would say 10-20% cover their laptop cameras. In London I only see 1 person do this out of 500. So privacy is interpreted differently by different people. I assure you these are not paranoid nut jobs. They have just read about a story/hack they do not understand and have reacted accordingly.


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rp2000 said:
Just out of curiosity, do you use the current Kinect to voice operate your 360?
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Personally, not really. However, the current dash is not really designed around a voice operated system. The new system has been designed that way, which is why I'm really interested in seeing how it will work.

There was a big story (last year or year before) where there was a way to enable webcams on laptops without your knowledge (without turning the light on). After this a "lot" of people started covering their laptop cameras. I work in an office of about 120 people and I would say 10-20% cover their laptop cameras. In London I only see 1 person do this out of 500. So privacy is interpreted differently by different people. I assure you these are not paranoid nut jobs. They have just read about a story/hack they do not understand and have reacted accordingly.
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I guess I just tend to think I have nothing to hide, so if someone could figure out a way to turn on my laptop camera and watch what I'm doing, all they'd see is a 35 year old playing games or watching videos. They'd turn the camera back off in minutes :D
 
Davey_Pitch said:
Personally, not really. However, the current dash is not really designed around a voice operated system. The new system has been designed that way, which is why I'm really interested in seeing how it will work.



I guess I just tend to think I have nothing to hide, so if someone could figure out a way to turn on my laptop camera and watch what I'm doing, all they'd see is a 35 year old playing games or watching videos. They'd turn the camera back off in minutes :D
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I thought a lot of the voice commands work in 360, like launching browser, applications, finding films, music etc?

Like you I am not bothered about my webcam, but hacking webcams is on the rise and exploiting flaws in systems is a hobby for some people!! It is a very real problem and I see hacking webcams and microphones as something that will increase to be honest. I can see how you could get a lot of information from it if you targeted the right person.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23693460
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22967622


rp2000
 
Got to be rubbish - MS confident enough to state November 2013 at E3 in July, then they release information that final (GPU) silicon can perform better than expected only a week or so ago - that just doesnt compute with a delay...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Due to demand or due to back end infarstructure?
Phased releases are normal before the PS4 gang jump on this remember how long you had to wait for your PS3 in Europe?
 
what was the reason for ps3 being late out of interest? also did sony actually give a release date like ms have then change it?

its bad news if this is true, feel sorry for the guys who pre ordered, mine you if its to make the machine better then i'd rather wait

davey pitch if this is true are you just going to buy a ps4 asap after launch because you were planning on buying one anyway yes?
 
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