Xfactor viewer mentality

hurfdurf said:
For a lot of people, gone are the days where anyone can make it. The idea that if you work hard you will achieve success has been shown up as a myth. Xfactor and reality TV is one of the few chances people now see as a realistic chance at changing their social standing for the better, which says a lot about how much trouble society is in.
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So where is the hard work in signing up to a TV show?

Realistically anyone with a good voice/work ethic has a chance otherwise we'd not have any musicians out there at all, would we?

I don't think the show shows that people only have a realistic chance of making it by being lucky in a TV show. It depicts what's wrong with this country in that a lot of people want to jump career levels without putting in the hard work to get there.

Car crash TV for the masses.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I always see how far down the series I can manage before I catch even a second of it on TV.

Last year I managed almost the entire run, i think it wasn't until the final 3 before i cause 15 minutes of it on the TV.
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I think I must win, I've gone entire series without seeing a minute, and I'm glad of it.
 
My highlight from it so far, the guy whose name I can't remembe they listed his job onscreen as "amusement park squirrel"...... Who would begrudge this guy a change of career ? :D
 
4T5 said:
I think my viewing of it leans more towards Sadism as I only watch the early shows where the Munters & divs get slung out crying. :p
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This is one of my two big problems with X-Factor. To me, the early shows are like the television equivalent of our ancestors going to the asylum to laugh at the inmates - quite an apt description as it goes, as if you believe what you read, one contestant this year, having also entered two or three previous times, was found to have been diagnosed as mentally ill.

I would never willingly watch this parade of the gullible and deluded, but unfortunately the wife's sister is an XF addict and I've been forced to sit through it whenever we visit - it's just utterly toe-curling watching people publicly sacrifice their dignity in this way in front of a baying mob that masquerades as an audience.

My second problem is with Simon Cowell himself - there isn't a word in the English language to adequately sum up the degree of contempt I have for him and his continued rape of the music industry. The amount of audio excrement that this man pumps to modern teenagers is staggering.

Who has X-Factor ever produced with any staying power? Leona Lewis and Will Young have pretty much disappeared and JLS's shelf-life as the boy band du jour are surely numbered. None of these have any kind of 'X-Factor' as far as talent is concerned - they are just stereotypes that fill the next perceived gap in the market. Once that gap in the market is filled, and the cash cow well and truly milked, the acts find themselves as fodder for those tawdry 'celebrity' gossip mags or return to the obscurity whence they came.

But then each September, back comes Simon with another series and the whole cynical cycle repeats itself ...
 
Adnams Drinker said:
......Once that gap in the market is filled, and the cash cow well and truly milked, the acts find themselves as fodder for those tawdry 'celebrity' gossip mags or return to the obscurity whence they came.
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There's always "celebrity" big brother or "celebrity" come dine with me or I'm a "celebrity" get me out of here or.....well you get the gist :rolleyes:
 
Quite simple... the whole of ITV is designed for people with mush for brains who find particles of dust amusing.

I like to call them simpletons ^^
 
I can't stand any of this reality tv stuff.

I get the impression that peoplpe either watch this sort of stuff because

a) Watching someone worse off than them do well/fail makes them feel better inside. All of the Cowell produced shows are scripted to show the sob stories, it just makes me laugh.

b) Watching random celebrities do mundane tasks (Dancing/living in a jungle/living in a house) makes them feel like they're part of something important which they can relate to as they've also lived in a house/danced/been around a bunch of fools. It doesn't matter if the celebs are morons either, it's just armchair hero worship imo.

My mum and sister both watch every reality tv show/random show featured a z list 'celeb' (Jordan/Kerry Katona/Peter Andre/Jedward) on tv, i just don't get the appeal. In fact they basically live on ITV produced shows like that.

Ah well, make of it what you will.
 
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Demoniser said:
My mum and sister both watch every reality tv show/random show featured a z list 'celeb' (Jordan/Kerry Katona/Peter Andre/Jedward) on tv, i just don't get the appeal. In fact they basically live on ITV produced shows like that.
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I want to kick the **** out of Jedward even more than Bieber.

The only reality TV I like is 'Young, dumb and living off mum' as I find it funny what ****-ups the young adults of today are.
 
chaosdestro0 said:
Yes as well as the annoying music, also why are there so many hit by a bus sob stories? I hate that, it seems as if everyone who has come on has some stupid little lame sob story.
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The best one that I caught once was where they did a sob story about a girl who came from a town in Wales. It happened to be the same one that had been in the news earlier in the year because some teenagers had a suicide pact and they went through with it.

Her sob story was that and that she wanted to put the town back on the map. She didn't know any of the people who died, it was really scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

As for the show, I can only stand the start where there are bad people, once it goes into the actual talent it's boring. It's become a lot more scripted and setup since they moved to the live format, I also think Cowell no longer being a judge isn't very good, as he is such an important part of it.
 
I work with someone who has been an American Idol judge. One of the preliminary round judges. They simply get given a criteria, can sing or can't sing and is entertaining.

The good acts are groomed and produced for the live final. Then quite a bit really is down to a manipulated tv audience as there are regulations they have to adhere to for ensuring a fair voting process.

They are now at the point where they have perfected the format for full manipulation and commercialism. After all they don't want a repeat of the fat (welsh?) girl winning again like the early days.
 
The way the judges houses part has been edited clearly shows who is going through to the live shows.
 
I love watching singing shows, and the X Factor is the most entertaining one ever made.

Though its too much to sit through every show, so I just watch the auditions and performances on youtube.

I like the terrible singers more than the good ones, but also Leona Lewis from this show, and Paul Potts from BGT are both absolutely brilliant, and if you disagree with that then you're a music noob :D
 
to the OP....You have climbed inside my mind and posted up word for word exactly how I feel about xfactor....can I have my mind back please :p

Seriously though...it's a crap show with no talent on view, it's just another money maker for Cowell and his ilk on the run up to Xmas.
 
sigma said:
Music noob? So those acts you mentioned, do they write their own lyrics and compose their own music?
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You dont need to be able to write lyrics or compose music to sing, and just because someone manages to write and compose a song themselves, doesnt automatically make that song any good.

Some people can do both, but there are plenty of songwriters out there who cant sing and would rather give their music to someone else instead.

From a vocal standard, very very few people can match the acts I mentioned.

Norah Jones doesnt write her own music but she is a fantastic singer and one of my favorites.

Writing and composing an entire albums worth of music yourself would take a very very long time, and even people who are very capable of doing that such as Alicia Keys still work with other co writers and producers to get more songs done in a shorter time frame, and also so that they get a lot of different ideas on top of what they would be able to write on their own.
 
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