Yobs make me sick.

K.C. Leblanc said:
I think it stems from changes in the education system and also because we're becoming a lazier society. Children just aren't taught to think for themselves any more or take responsibility for their actions.

As for punishment, boot camps. I also think the key to making them work is a system where you can only complete your sentence if you do as your told. Not time off for good behaviour, but if you're given a 28 day sentence you must behave satisfactorily on every one of those 28 days. Mess up one day, you stay in boot camp a day longer, the only way out is compliance.
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It's simple. There's no discipline! You can't hit your child anymore, school teacher's aren't allowed to touch them. They get away with murder, then they take advantage of that fact. Plus they are heavily influenced by an increasingly out of control television, film, game and music market.

Was reading in the paper the other day about a 19 year old you raped a girl because he was pretending he was in the the world of GTA. How messed up is that?

Kami said:
Just ban fireworks, there's tons of free licensed displays to go to or alternatively limit the shops who can sell them to ones who don't employ teenagers or under 25s and set the age limit for purchasing to 25+

In other words, stop selling them in Asda!!
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Totally agree, the organised fireworks displays are fantastic, safe and free. I have no wish to get my own fireworks in the future, never have done.
 
iSam said:
Was reading in the paper the other day about a 19 year old you raped a girl because he was pretending he was in the the world of GTA. How messed up is that?
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on that subject, there was another article in the same paper i was reading, of a nipper getting stabbed in the head by another one, receiving brain damage. and only getting 7 years in prison for it. unbelievable!
 
iSam said:
Totally agree, the organised fireworks displays are fantastic, safe and free. I have no wish to get my own fireworks in the future, never have done.
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Free, they are very rarely free.

Banning fireworks would achieve very little, it could ever make the situation worse. Some dodgy geezer who's selling an illegal product isn't going to be picky about who he sells to unless he gets his money. Also fireworks that are imported illegally or made in illegal factories won't be subject to current safety laws. Not to mention the increased chance of larger fireworks only intended for use by pro being sold under the counter to all and sundry.

On the other hand it would ruin Guy Fawkes night for families who like to spend it in there own garden.
 
K.C. Leblanc said:
Free, they are very rarely free.

Banning fireworks would achieve very little, it could ever make the situation worse. Some dodgy geezer who's selling an illegal product isn't going to be picky about who he sells to unless he gets his money. Also fireworks that are imported illegally or made in illegal factories won't be subject to current safety laws. Not to mention the increased chance of larger fireworks only intended for use by pro being sold under the counter to all and sundry.

On the other hand it would ruin Guy Fawkes night for families who like to spend it in there own garden.
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And that doesn't happen now? Because fireworks are legal doesn't mean people are buying them and selling them for a profit to kids? No safety laws, surely thats a good thing, the sods will blow themselves up. Well, there is always the chance of the big pro companies selling them on, but they would not risk the loss of their license in most cases.

I hate people having fireworks in their garden, scares the s*** out of all the pets in the neighbourhood and is usually naff. Give your kids a few sparklers and a toffee apple and it will be sound.
 
That is truly awful news :(, how can people be so brutally twisted, yet i would be classed as a bad person for wanting to tie them to the back of a car wrapped in razor wire and only stop when the screams stop:mad:. I hope the cygnets are recovering in a safer place, poor Little sods.
 
K.C. Leblanc said:
Free, they are very rarely free.

Banning fireworks would achieve very little, it could ever make the situation worse. Some dodgy geezer who's selling an illegal product isn't going to be picky about who he sells to unless he gets his money. Also fireworks that are imported illegally or made in illegal factories won't be subject to current safety laws. Not to mention the increased chance of larger fireworks only intended for use by pro being sold under the counter to all and sundry.

On the other hand it would ruin Guy Fawkes night for families who like to spend it in there own garden.
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You can buy fireworks directly from where they're made, they're cheaper and frankly they barely bother checking age or asking for ID. They tend to sell more powerful fireworks too, which shops don't stock.

I'd ban the sale of them to the public entirely unless they were licensed to use them - they are explosives after all. We don't allow people to buy guns or drive cars without a license, why do we let them purchase and let off explosives next to the house? :p
 
Sinque said:
Yes because you rape girls in GTA :rolleyes:
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Wasn't the point I was intending to make although I can understand your inference. He was influenced by the poor treatment of women, prostitution etc in GTA, which in turn affected his view of women personally, he treated them as objects.
 
iSam said:
Wasn't the point I was intending to make although I can understand your inference. He was influenced by the poor treatment of women, prostitution etc in GTA, which in turn affected his view of women personally, he treated them as objects.
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That says less about the game and more about any underlying psychological condition.
 
Kami said:
I'd ban the sale of them to the public entirely unless they were licensed to use them - they are explosives after all. We don't allow people to buy guns or drive cars without a license, why do we let them purchase and let off explosives next to the house? :p
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Agree with you on that one, some people are very ignorant to how dangerous they can be!
 
Atrox Moris said:
That says less about the game and more about any underlying psychological condition.
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Indeed, He could just as easily have watched something on TV and came to the same conclusion.

So many sick minded people, and its always best to try and make it look like you're not solely responsible for being that way.
 
Atrox Moris said:
That says less about the game and more about any underlying psychological condition.
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But surely you have to admit that a game of GTAs nature could influence someone who might be unstable?

wannabedamned said:
Indeed, He could just as easily have watched something on TV and came to the same conclusion.

So many sick minded people, and its always best to try and make it look like you're not solely responsible for being that way.
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You back up my original point, children are being more influenced by TV, games, music and films.
 
iSam said:
But surely you have to admit that a game of GTAs nature could influence someone who might be unstable?
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Any number of things could influence someone. Especially with a mental health problem. If it wasn't GTA it would be violent films, or something else.

The fact that he treats women as objects is the problem. Not what game he's playing or films he's watching.
 
Not to mention the increased chance of larger fireworks only intended for use by pro being sold under the counter to all and sundry.
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that happens anyway, one of my wifes friends had a party last bonfire night and after about 12 of us went to the local park because someone had a bunch of fireworks in his car lol we get there and each fire work is the size of a small child.

aparently some guys were selling them in a pub so i guess some factory / warehouse containing profesional display fireworks was robbed
 
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