Young Drivers Test - Silverstone July 17-19th 2013

Duke · 11 Jul 2013 at 22:24

The Young Drivers Test starts next Wedesnday at Silverstone. This year the teams are allowed to run the race drivers on one day if they wish and will be testing the 2012 construction tyres with hard, medium and soft 2013 compounds. They are not allowed to run any development parts on that day. Only £15 a day to go watch - http://www.silverstone.co.uk/events/f1-young-drivers-test/

Driver line up

Ferrari - Davide Rigon & Felipe Massa
McLaren - Magnusson, Turvey & Paffett
Red Bull - Sebastian Vettel, Antonio Felix da Costa, Carlos Sainz Jnr & Daniel Ricciardo
Sauber - Nico Hulkenberg, Robin Frijns & Kimiya Sato
Force India - James Calado, Paul di Resta & Adrian Sutil
Lotus - Nicolas Prost & Davide Valsecchi
Williams - Susie Wolff, Daniel Juncadella & Pastor Maldonado
Toro Rosso - Johnny Cecotto Jnr, Carlos Sainz Jnr, Daniel Ricciardo, Jean-Eric Vergne & Daniil Kvyat
Caterham - Alexander Rossi, Will Stevens, Charles Pic & Giedo van der Garde
Marussia - Tio Ellinas, Max Chilton, Rodlfo Gonzalez & Jules Bianchi
Mercedes - Fail

Useful Links

Live blog - http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/f1-live/f1-fanatic-live-f1-testing/
The days they run are listed here - http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/07/16/complete-driver-line-up-for-silverstone-young-drivers-test/
And more info on the drivers backgrounds here - http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1...rs-in-action-at-this-week-s-Young-Driver-Test

Day 1

Code:

[b]Pos Driver 		Car 			Time 		Laps[/b]
1 Kevin Magnussen 	McLaren-Mercedes  	1’33.602 	33 	
2 Paul di Resta 	Force India-Mercedes  	1’33.774 	14 	
3 Antonio Felix da Costa Red Bull-Renault  	1’33.821 	31
4 James Calado 		Force India-Mercedes  	1’33.986 	37
5 Daniel Juncadella 	Williams-Renault  	1’34.098 	38
6 Johnny Cecotto Jnr 	Toro Rosso-Ferrari  	1’34.193 	39
7 Robin Frijns 		Sauber-Ferrari  	1’34.236 	36
8 Nicolas Prost 	Lotus-Renault  		1’34.810 	34
9 Davide Rigon 		Ferrari  		1’34.874 	32
10 Alexander Rossi 	Caterham-Renault  	1’35.651 	40
11 Tio Ellinas 		Marussia-Cosworth  	1’36.676 	41
12 Max Chilton 		Marussia-Cosworth  	1’38.347 	23

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/07/17/magnussen-leads-di-resta-on-day-one-of-test/
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1...cLaren-young-driver-Kevin-Magnussen-leads-way

Day 2

Code:

[b]Pos Driver		Team		Time		Laps[/b]
1. Daniel Ricciardo	Toro Rosso	1m32.972s	48
2. Carlos Sainz Jr.	Toro Rosso	1m33.016s	39
3. Daniel Ricciardo	Red Bull Racing	1m33.187s	59
4. Davide Valsecchi	Lotus F1	1m33.554s	91
5. Oliver Turvey	McLaren		1m33.864s	97
6. James Calado		Force India	1m33.957s	47
7. Antonio Felix da CostaRed Bull Racing1m33.958s	19
8. Davide Rigon		Ferrari		1m34.053s	97
9. Pastor Maldonado	Williams	1m34.116s	71
10. Nico Hulkenberg	Sauber		1m34.224s	52
11. Daniel Juncadella	Williams	1m34.631s	33
12. Robin Frijns	Sauber		1m34.731s	17
13. Will Stevens	Caterham	1m36.082s	98
14. Paul di Resta	Force India	1m36.356s	41
15. Rodolfo Gonzalez	Marussia	1m37.949s	92

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/07/18/ricciardo-top-for-toro-rosso-but-spins-in-red-bull/
http://www.f1technical.net/news/18616?sid=3a43a069b74b700a1782199e5d926085

Day 3

Code:

[b]Pos Driver		Team			Time		Laps[/b]
1. Sebastian Vettel	Red Bull Racing		1m32.894s	79
2. Adrian Sutil		Force India-Mercedes	1m33.242s	99
3. Nicolas Prost	Lotus-Renault		1m33.256s	83
4. Carlos Sainz Jr	Red Bull-Renault	1m33.546s	35
5. Davide Rigon		Ferrari			1m33.592s	19
6. Felipe Massa		Ferrari			1m33.624s	69
7. Jean-Eric Vergne	Toro Rosso-Ferrari	1m33.647s	42
8. Gary Paffett		McLaren-Mercedes	1m34.294s	77
9. Susie Wolff		Williams-Renault	1m35.093s	89
10. Giedo van der Garde	Caterham-Renault	1m35.155s	85
11. Daniil Kvyat	Toro Rosso-Ferrari	1m35.281s	22
12. Charles Pic		Caterham-Renault	1m35.576s	60
13. Kimiya Sato		Sauber-Ferrari		1m35.642s	67
14. Rodolfo Gonzalez	Marussia-Cosworth	1m36.339s	24
15. James Calado	Force India-Mercedes	1m36.451s	5
16. Jules Bianchi	Marussia-Cosworth	1m36.744s	39

http://www.f1technical.net/news/18628?sid=3a43a069b74b700a1782199e5d926085
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/07/19/vettel-ahead-as-young-drivers-test-ends/

Skyboat · 11 Jul 2013 at 22:31

Very close to purchasing tickets for this, the question is for which day.

Duke · 12 Jul 2013 at 06:56

Heading up with TaKeN on the Friday

I thought this sounded good on the Silverstone site:

A Pitwalk will be held on all three days of the Young Drivers’ Test between 1700 – 1800, giving visitors the opportunity to view a variety of Showcars on display in the pit lane as well as several open garages.

Tickets are limited but will be available both in advance, and on the day. Pitwalk ticket holders will be able to gain access to the Pitlane via the track at Luffield from 1700 as the Centre is not accessible to the Public throughout the Event.

Can't see these tickets listed anywhere yet though.

deuse · 12 Jul 2013 at 08:04

Since the rules have changed I think Merc should be able to take part for at least a day.

Skeeter · 12 Jul 2013 at 08:57

So annoyed I can't make this

deuse said:
Since the rules have changed I think Merc should be able to take part for at least a day.

Any news on their appeal against the ban?

deuse · 12 Jul 2013 at 11:38

Skeeter said:
So annoyed I can't make this

Any news on their appeal against the ban?

Nope. Anyway I'm looking at 2014 now this season is over unless brawn comes up with something.

JoeF1 · 12 Jul 2013 at 12:18

Would love to go to this. But the petrol cost from Leeds is the only thing stopping

Guerrilla · 12 Jul 2013 at 12:57

Tempted myself, quite the trip though... Might have to see about getting some time off work.

TaKeN · 12 Jul 2013 at 14:53

Duke said:
Can't see these tickets listed anywhere yet though.

£10 a head

Bit steep for an hours walk down the pit!

Duke · 12 Jul 2013 at 17:01

Worth it imo

edit: Booked Pit Walk pass :cool:

Mr Men · 12 Jul 2013 at 19:49

Are they using the old pit lane for the test? Luffield is a fair walk away from the new pitlane.

smr · 12 Jul 2013 at 20:13

Mr Men said:
Are they using the old pit lane for the test? Luffield is a fair walk away from the new pitlane.

Yes. National Pit Straight.

JHeaton · 12 Jul 2013 at 21:25

Really wish this was the following week so that I could go down and see some action.

Should be interesting to see how many teams don't run a young driver at all. I'd have thought RBR might have wanted to give Ricciardo and/or JEV a chance to run in the RB9 and evaluate their pace relative to Vettel's, given that Webber is leaving and it's already out in the open.

The_Abyss · 13 Jul 2013 at 06:46

deuse said:
Since the rules have changed I think Merc should be able to take part for at least a day.

I can't see what's changed enough to warrant this. After all, Mercedes were quite vocal that they didn't learn anything from 3 days private testing with race drivers so I can't see what difference another day will make for them. That'd be the mischievous view

Flibster · 13 Jul 2013 at 12:12

The_Abyss said:
I can't see what's changed enough to warrant this. After all, Mercedes were quite vocal that they didn't learn anything from 3 days private testing with race drivers so I can't see what difference another day will make for them. That'd be the mischievous view

These are brand new tyres. 2012 construction with 2013 compounds. I believe, from the tribunal, the main thing that they tested over 1000km was 2013 tyres, but with only a Kevlar belt rather than steel.

The biggest problem with what they are allowing at the *cough* young drivers test is they are allowing the team's to work on balance and other setup parameters on the new tyres. If it was true Pirelli test, Pirelli would specify no car changes in order to keep a good baseline.
It's surprising that many people still go on about Merc's private test being three days. It was 1000km spread over 3 days due to bad weather. On a good day, they could have easily gone through that mileage in a day.

I'd have loved for the FIA to specify the same limits for the race drivers at the ydt that Mercedes had. Restricted data, no car changes, no new parts... and so on.

drunkenmaster · 13 Jul 2013 at 18:08

The_Abyss said:
I can't see what's changed enough to warrant this. After all, Mercedes were quite vocal that they didn't learn anything from 3 days private testing with race drivers so I can't see what difference another day will make for them. That'd be the mischievous view

THe simple fact is they didn't gain anything because they didn't know which tyres were which, everything was controlled by Pirelli and ALL useful testing is about comparing one piece to another, they didn't gain much if anything from a 3 day blind test with one setup. A day of ACTUAL testing is huge, its completely incomparable, firstly they basically got nothing useful and did nothing particularly wrong, with the supposedly minimal punishment being because Charlie at the very least knew and didn't tell them they couldn't.

They've also done nothing even close to from what I recall Ferrari's two tests ALREADY and they haven't been punished in the slightest and get to do testing here and then the safety issue of completely changing the tyres again and Merc being the only ones not allowed to test with them, its utterly absurd.

If anyone was in the wrong, it was Ferrari, and nothing has even been suggested about punishing them, Merc MAY have done something slightly dodgy, in no way enough to warrant being banned from this test before it was made a new tyre and main driver test.

The whole thing is laughable and already comes across like Ferrari and Red Bull didn't like that Merc were taking points off them, so have the FIA slap them down to make life harder for the team and easier for the "big boys".

Skyboat · 13 Jul 2013 at 20:05

Booked tickets for the Friday now.

Also, Kimi is scheduled to be driving on the Friday, and the Hulk is set to do half a day's testing on the Thursday

Indy500 · 13 Jul 2013 at 20:12

Should be called "Ride buyer and technical test 2013"

Mr Men · 14 Jul 2013 at 10:01

drunkenmaster said:
THe simple fact is they didn't gain anything because they didn't know which tyres were which,

Apart from Nico saying they did know what tyres they were using, but yeah Ferrari were in the wrong blame it all on Ferrari even though they tested with an old car.

The simple fact you continue to ignore is Merc were punished for the car they used, not the fact they tested. But I guess if you repeat a lie enough times it might become true.

Guerrilla · 15 Jul 2013 at 08:44

Anybody have any idea what kind of times the days run from and to? Trying to work out if we'll be able to come down for one of the days but we'll need to be back so need to see if it's doable.