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Moved my mums car onto the road for a brief moment, while I moved cars around on the drive.

Put it into the disabled bay as there was no other parking available at that moment in time, and it was only for a short period of time.


To be clear, my mum is registered disabled, and I’ve put the blue card in the car.


Just went to move it and the people who live there have made it super tricky to get out.


When I went to get into the car, the owner of the white van said I can’t park there as it’s a disabled bay. I explained that I have a blue card in the car. He then said that it’s not my parking space, so I explained that it’s a public road.



Just to check, if the owner of the house by the bay had the space put in, is it their space?

Would be happy to move it but they won’t move their van? :confused:


Doesn’t make any sense to me - if they want their space back I’ll move it, but they said they won’t.


Any thoughts other than to call 101?


Just to clarify, your mum is disabled, the guy in the white knows this, and hes still being an arse?
 
Just to clarify, your mum is disabled, the guy in the white knows this, and hes still being an arse?

He wasn’t really interested - he first tried to call me out as not disabled when I put the badge in the car. I then explained it wasn’t mine, and was my mums, who is disabled.

Just made him more angry.
 
He wasn’t really interested - he first tried to call me out as not disabled when I put the badge in the car. I then explained it wasn’t mine, and was my mums, who is disabled.

Just made him more angry.
Quick google: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/has-...legally-can-and-cant-do-to-parked-cars-435838

A homeowner has no special legal right to park directly outside their property. All road users have the same right to park anywhere on the public highway as long as they do not contravene parking restrictions.
- There is no time limit on how long a vehicle can remain parked in the same space on a road. The exception to this is if the vehicle is thought to have been abandoned, in which case it can be removed by the police.

Is it a permit area or anything like that?
 
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Quick google: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/has-...legally-can-and-cant-do-to-parked-cars-435838

A homeowner has no special legal right to park directly outside their property. All road users have the same right to park anywhere on the public highway as long as they do not contravene parking restrictions.
- There is no time limit on how long a vehicle can remain parked in the same space on a road. The exception to this is if the vehicle is thought to have been abandoned, in which case it can be removed by the police.

Is it a permit area or anything like that?

Nope, no permit needed. 101 explained pretty much as per the article you quoted.

They said it doesn’t sound as though there is a reason the car cannot be parked there - the only situation where I couldn’t park there is if it was blocking access to a property (I.e. dropped curb).
 
Lashing down with rain today on my journey home pootling down the m54 and end up behind a silver Audi with no lights on so basically invisible until you were on top of it just sitting in lane two.

Gave them a minute of clear lane one then a quick flash to gently encourage them to wake up, nothing. Sat behind them for another 30 seconds then over took on the left, quick look over as I went past and the driver was far too busy nattering away to their passenger to notice what was going on around them.

Big white van came up behind them shortly after and the same scenario unfolded, they were just completely oblivious.
 
The white van is not parked fully within the white lines of the marked bay. Therefore, he is committing an offence. I believe it is £100 fine but happy to be corrected. He is also parked in a disabled bay without a blue badge; this has been illegal since (I think) 2009.
 
Nope, no permit needed. 101 explained pretty much as per the article you quoted.

They said it doesn’t sound as though there is a reason the car cannot be parked there - the only situation where I couldn’t park there is if it was blocking access to a property (I.e. dropped curb).
Is his rear wheels being in the disabled bay a civil matter?

Also, assume he has a letterbox?
 
If you end up going down the which laws are being broken route then originally parking in a disabled bay using a blue badge while the holder wasn't present and wasn't going to be using the car could end up in the badge being revoked, so I maybe wouldn't pull at that string.
 
Localish road, never understand why people do this.
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Also one idiot who does this every time Crow Mills - area between South Wigston and Countesthorpe.
 
If you end up going down the which laws are being broken route then originally parking in a disabled bay using a blue badge while the holder wasn't present and wasn't going to be using the car could end up in the badge being revoked, so I maybe wouldn't pull at that string.
People have been fined for parking in a disabled bay when the badge holder doesn’t leave the car.

if they aren’t leaving the car, people need to park in normal spaces
 
If you end up going down the which laws are being broken route then originally parking in a disabled bay using a blue badge while the holder wasn't present and wasn't going to be using the car could end up in the badge being revoked, so I maybe wouldn't pull at that string.

You’re right, there’s no point getting picky about him breaking laws etc.

I’m just looking to move a car which he has boxed in, and cannot.


I’ll next update the thread once I have resolved :-)
 
Have spoken to the local council and 101 again, and have the following information to provide - please note it may only be relevant to this council (Hampshire).


1. The disabled bay is not enforceable. It is only a convenience bay, I think they called it. This is because there isn’t a sign post to state any terms/conditions, just the painting.
2. The council can’t/wont do anything, as they consider it a police matter.
3. The police can’t/wont do anything as they consider it a council matter, with it being on public highway.


I asked the police officer whether technically, the two cars could remain parked there indefinitely, rendering the car unusable for the equivalent amount of time. They said yes.

In their view, parking and blocking you in is not illegal on the public highway, it would only be so if they blocked you in your property.



Essentially, nothing I can do at this stage. Guess the car is staying there, which will annoy them more that it will me/my mum :confused: :D
 
^^^ Have you got any ‘large’ friends. The police seem to think it’s a free for all so might as well go the vigilante route.

Is that Corsa van thing this mental blokes too?
 
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^^^ Have you got any ‘large’ friends. The police seem to think it’s a free for all so might as well go the vigilante route.

Is that Corsa van thing this mental blokes too?

Nah I’m gonna leave it there as long as possible. Given how angry the bloke was just being parked there an hour or so, he must be going through the roof that it’s coming up to 24 hours.

Every time they look out the window, they’ll get annoyed.

They probably wont even want to use the car/vans just to “spite me”.


The other van thing belongs to the person who apparently owns the disabled bay. So again, they now can’t use it anyway.



Both vehicles are still there by all accounts. I’ll check in tomorrow
 

Have spoken to the local council and 101 again, and have the following information to provide - please note it may only be relevant to this council (Hampshire).


1. The disabled bay is not enforceable. It is only a convenience bay, I think they called it. This is because there isn’t a sign post to state any terms/conditions, just the painting.
2. The council can’t/wont do anything, as they consider it a police matter.
3. The police can’t/wont do anything as they consider it a council matter, with it being on public highway.

As you say, these bays are not enforceable until there is a sign to accompany the bay (usually on a lamp post or small post if there is no lamp post). If there is no sign then it is a courtesy bay only. If a sign WAS in place, both the Van and the Vauxhall are parking illegally as they are within the disabled parking bay (legally they are now that length in case the disabled vehicle has a rear lift and needa access)

This is the same UK wide. If there was a gin in place, then the council can enforce the bay hence why they cant do anything now.

I have read the thread but I may have missed it - what issue do the other people have with the Fiesta parking there? Do they believe its their bay (not true) or just because they seen yourself putting the car in there and deem that you are a chancer? (also not true from what you have explained)


Dont get me wrong - on some streets, all you need is a handful of these bays and, due to the size of them, no one else can get parked. Regardless of how understanding you can be regarding people with disabilities, it can get annoying. (yes, yes - not as annoying as being physically disabled :rolleyes:)
 
I have read the thread but I may have missed it - what issue do the other people have with the Fiesta parking there? Do they believe its their bay (not true) or just because they seen yourself putting the car in there and deem that you are a chancer? (also not true from what you have explained)

It is that they claim the parking space belongs to the darker coloured car/van. I wasn’t sure on this at the time, but questioned it because it was a public road. They just said it doesn’t matter because it’s a disabled bay for their neighbour.
 
Then they are wrong - no one "owns" any spaces on a public road be that disabled or otherwise.... Why van neighbour feels he needs to get aggrieved on someone else's behalf is beyond me. Let the Vauxhall driver come speak to you.
 
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