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chrismscotland said:
Yeah there were plans during the Cold War that would have seen most UK civilian aircraft requisitioned to move troops to Germany; of course for much of that period the main UK airlines were government owned anyway; I assume they have powers to do the same now although I expect a lot of airlines would be able to avoid them being able to use aircraft that weren't UK Registered (for Example, post Brexit EasyJet now has planes officially registered to Easyjet Switzerland & EasyJet Europe (Austria)
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I thought as much - I think with Brexit its working both ways, with companies moving aircraft back onto UK (G) registrations as well (My company has done it). As I understand it, if you want an aircraft based in the U.K. now, it has to be registered here.

Interesting times.....
 
adam cool dude said:
The US are going to be stationing Nukes in the UK for the first time in 15 years and the chief of the army is saying we need to recruit.

I guess they know something we do not.
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If they station nuclear weapons here hopefully we can decommission ours and save the economy £100bns per year since we won't need them. However I doubt that would happen. 100s of countries don't have nuclear weapons and seem to do just fine... It's frightening that we've developed such a strong rhetoric in humanity that we feel it's sensible to be able to destroy ourselves 100x over because of choades with fragile egos.
 
Freefaller said:
If they station nuclear weapons here hopefully we can decommission ours and save the economy £100bns per year since we won't need them. However I doubt that would happen. 100s of countries don't have nuclear weapons and seem to do just fine... It's frightening that we've developed such a strong rhetoric in humanity that we feel it's sensible to be able to destroy ourselves 100x over because of choades with fragile egos.
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I wonder if Russia would have invaded Ukraine if they hadn't been conned into getting rid of their nuclear deterrent...
 
46 years old and I have already beaten doubly misdiagnosed stage three Hodgkins Lymphoma and severe Biventricular Dilated Cardiomyopathy. Good luck getting me out onto the battlefield! :cry:
 
colour blind. I'll be shooting the wrong people but if they are willing to take the increase in friendly fire incidents then I already know all the lingo.

Hooah!! semper fi!! Game over!!! ******* A!!
 
Mr Footlong said:
46 years old and I have already beaten doubly misdiagnosed stage three Hodgkins Lymphoma and severe Biventricular Dilated Cardiomyopathy. Good luck getting me out onto the battlefield! :cry:
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It doesn't matter, your job will be to get in their way to give royalty, MP's and rich people a bit more time to get away.
 
Yes I will go to War, all you have to do is give me one of the empty houses the MOD have all over the place while i struggle all my life to get on the housing ladder.
 
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You're far more likely to be forced to work for a minimum war wage is a munitions factory or out in the fields growing food if WW3 kicked off than sent to the front line. There's little point recruiting 5 million into an army that has 7 rifles and half a case of ammunition to go around.

I suspect that's more scary than fighting for some, an honest day's work of physical labour ;)
 
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Freefaller said:
If they station nuclear weapons here hopefully we can decommission ours and save the economy £100bns per year since we won't need them. However I doubt that would happen. 100s of countries don't have nuclear weapons and seem to do just fine... It's frightening that we've developed such a strong rhetoric in humanity that we feel it's sensible to be able to destroy ourselves 100x over because of choades with fragile egos.
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History of policing the high seas/defending "freedom" against comnunism/nazism/take your pick. UN security council member. Our government would be queueing up to send conscripts to die, I mean themselves, except they're not eligible, oh dear. Never mind, off you go lads, we'll pin a nice medal on your grave.

Mr Footlong said:
46 years old and I have already beaten doubly misdiagnosed stage three Hodgkins Lymphoma and severe Biventricular Dilated Cardiomyopathy. Good luck getting me out onto the battlefield! :cry:
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Don't worry you'd be working behind the scenes in the NAAFI boiling up the tea instead
 
Freefaller said:
If they station nuclear weapons here hopefully we can decommission ours and save the economy £100bns per year since we won't need them. However I doubt that would happen. 100s of countries don't have nuclear weapons and seem to do just fine... It's frightening that we've developed such a strong rhetoric in humanity that we feel it's sensible to be able to destroy ourselves 100x over because of choades with fragile egos.
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One of the worst things we can do is concentrate nuclear weapons down to too few countries.

We've developed a framework around those that have and haven't which has work for decades i.e. the UK and France provide a umbrella for Europe (along with US/NATO sharing).
 
I should be exempt with my high blood pressure ;) . Although I wouldn't mind too much if I had to work in a factory making weapons or something. There used to be a tank factory in Leeds but I suspect it shut down long ago.
 
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Mr Footlong said:
This issue never occurred to me, but pretty damn important in reality!
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Definitely couldn’t be on lookout. Especially if it’s in the jungle. The enemy will be in the camp and I wouldn’t have seen them coming.

Apart from that I’ve grew up on westerns, war and martial art films so I could skip basics training.
 
Irish_Tom said:
Thread is brilliant:

"I'm not fighting for this country; it's full of woke ****s", all the way to "I'm not fighting for this country; it's full of flag-shagger gammons"…

But one way or another, no one wants to fight for their family, their friends, their home, or their liberty.

We're all ******.

Personally, if it came to it, I would volunteer for something, although I doubt I'd be much use on the front lines.
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If there was an “I want to live” phone number to Russia like there is to Ukraine in the case of an invasion, I bet you call volumes would be through the roof. :)

I don’t think I’ve ever heard so many people talking about emigrating as I have lately. Personally I’ll be leaving London soon and probably will be retiring abroad.
 
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Grim5 said:
Tactical nukes don't really make sense in modern war. They were ok when they were invented because you didn't need an accurate weapon, you could hit a target everyone within close range would be gone too. But now we do have accurate weapons and they 10% of the price of a nuke. You can buy 10 cruise missiles with a 2000km range for the price of one small nuke, which means you can hit up to 10 valuable targets instead of just a single target
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Well, the USAF seem to think they can still be useful because they are deploying 100 B61-12 gravity bombs to their base at RAF Lakenheath. The B61 series are "dial-a-yield" devices. Mod 12 can produce a yield of 0.3 Kt, 1.5 Kt, 10 Kt or 50 Kt. At maximum yield it is in the strategic range (W76 mod 0 used in our Trident D5 missiles only has a yield of 100 Kt), but below that it's tactical. B61-12 is a recently upgraded version of the B61 mod 3/4 bombs, it is laser-guided with an accuracy of 30 metres. It can be used at its top setting for destroying reinforced bunkers and at its lower yields for attacking softer targets with acceptable collateral damage (including submarines in varying depths of water without sinking nearby allied shipping).
 
I have a very old-fuddy-duddy opinion about people right now!!

They have had life too good, too easy, and they are as soft as hell! They don't want war to the point where they are completely in denial about it. They have their eyes closed and because of that are an easy target for tin-pot dictators. The people are sending a message to the likes of Putin that we have no political resolve or desire to offer any resistance. In effect, our fear of war is actually dragging us in to one.
We are hopelessly unprepared, both materially and mentally.

Freefaller said:
If they station nuclear weapons here hopefully we can decommission ours and save the economy £100bns per year since we won't need them. However I doubt that would happen. 100s of countries don't have nuclear weapons and seem to do just fine... It's frightening that we've developed such a strong rhetoric in humanity that we feel it's sensible to be able to destroy ourselves 100x over because of choades with fragile egos.
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We don't have any. Well, not land-based. We have submarine based and those are essential for the UK. The reason being that, it is widely believed that we might not be able to launch land-based in time, so if you have limited eggs, better to put them in a submarine that is further away from the Russian launch sites.

But, because our launch systems are not UK but American, we effectively need their permission to launch anyway. Having said that, it is of course, given if we are attacked (The Americans would not expect us NOT to attack if we were attacked first).

Having said that, I would rather trust American nuclear warheads than our own. We literally lost the skills to make these things thanks to government cuts. When we started designing them for our new upcoming subs, we had to return to the text books. We do test them, of course, but even so, it's kinda worrying.
 
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