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gingergundog · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:34

BUDFORCE said:
It worries me honestly, and I cant think the way things are going its looking more and more likely.

I do also shudder at the thought of the average british joe trying to fight, I mean, NOTHING against out current armed force guys, I am sure they are worth 50x Russian or whoever, probably more.

But lets face it, some blokes dont even like eating chicken off the bone, let alone fighting.

Can you imagine this guy rocking up to fight?

Its fine, he will just blind the enemy with his massive bright white teeth.

Stu999 · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:34

If it was a conventional war Russia / China would get their **** pushed in by the US (mainly) and NATO pretty quickly. If it went nuclear there probably wouldn't be much need to send me.

I'd definitely go but being over 40 I would be last, last resort. If there was something I could do like logistics, maintenance, IT, anything like that I'd do it too.

NickK · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:37

Stu999 said:
If it was a conventional war Russia / China would get their **** pushed in by the US (mainly) and NATO pretty quickly. If it went nuclear there probably wouldn't be much need to send me.

I'd definitely go but being over 40 I would be last, last resort. If there was something I could do like logistics, maintenance, IT, anything like that I'd do it too.

homeguard, fireservice, replacement teachers etc for able bodied people.

labbby · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:38

I’d go but unfortunately I’ve got tennis elbow.

Terminal_Boy · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:42

Having seen how the U.K. has treated the veterans of her misadventures in the Middle East over the last 20 years, I wouldn’t break wind for her.

Uther · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:42

My Grandad was on 'the other side' in the last war so who knows where I'd go.

Thekwango · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:45

200sols said:
I'm sure 'in your day' all the 18yr olds were war ready

To be fair, when I was 18 (a mere 30 years ago) most everyone I knew was very active, or outdoorsy etc - generally quite physically capable. The weirdo shut ins were very very rare. Most 18 year olds I know now can barely dress themselves without help

adolf hamster · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:47

i can't see a war large enough to require mass conscription that doesn't very quickly turn nuclear.

all this would achieve is helping people decide what to wear for the apocalypse.

gingergundog · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:50

Stu999 said:
If it was a conventional war Russia / China would get their **** pushed in by the US (mainly) and NATO pretty quickly. If it went nuclear there probably wouldn't be much need to send me.

I'd definitely go but being over 40 I would be last, last resort. If there was something I could do like logistics, maintenance, IT, anything like that I'd do it too.

Can confirm this happens...from playing BF3.

Maximum Triceratops · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:52

Unless they are invading Britain then no chance, not my kids neither, I aint dying on some soggy cold battlefield because some Maniac leader is on an ego trip.

robj20 · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:54

No. You just know it would be everyone, it would be the mugs only. Certain people would be exempt if you know the right people you'd be exempt.

gingergundog · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:54

Thekwango said:
To be fair, when I was 18 (a mere 30 years ago) most everyone I knew was very active, or outdoorsy etc - generally quite physically capable. The weirdo shut ins were very very rare. Most 18 year olds I know now can barely dress themselves without help

Mint8 · 24 Jan 2024 at 17:56

Just a bit of a recruitment drive by the army is all this is.

There are a lot of career military who would love a good war - several generals at the UN have been scaremongering in the past few weeks as well. Seems like all ther old guys at the top are spoiling for a fight - probably so their mates can make a fortune out of it.

As people above have said - Russia is not strong enough to take on Europe let alone the USA - BUT Putin is mad enough to take us all with him if things went bad for them, that is the real issue.

Trump getting back into the White House doesnt exactly help World stability either.

Hades · 24 Jan 2024 at 18:00

Stu999 said:
If it was a conventional war Russia / China would get their **** pushed in by the US (mainly) and NATO pretty quickly. If it went nuclear there probably wouldn't be much need to send me.

I'd definitely go but being over 40 I would be last, last resort. If there was something I could do like logistics, maintenance, IT, anything like that I'd do it too.

Pretty much this.

I would willingly grab a gun and fight to protect my family if we were being invaded. If we were called up to invade another country unilaterally I would probably refuse as I don't see that as being needed to defend my family.

But if we are in a WW3 scenario then yes I would do it. I'm mid 50s now, with various ailments so I don't think I would be much use at the front. But I would go. I suspect I would be better employed in logistics, maintenance, support, IT or even home guard, etc.

But a big question is whether I could get Starbucks on the front line???

NickK · 24 Jan 2024 at 18:00

Terminal_Boy said:
Having seen how the U.K. has treated the veterans of her misadventures in the Middle East over the last 20 years, I wouldn’t break wind for her.

Unfortunately that seems to be the public sector view of people that work.. I’m in a very close to public sector and the culture/attitude reeks of it.. I can see/understand why the politicians think the way they do.. it’s like they are stuck in the 1960s.

Jono8 · 24 Jan 2024 at 18:02

Mint8 said:
Trump getting back into the White House doesnt exactly help World stability either.

This is what i don't get about Trump supporters. It is obvious that he cosies up to Russia and authoritarians.

No one is going to attack a fully united NATO, and no NATO country is going to attempt to invade any other superpower like Russia, China etc so the status quo almost guarantees either peace or complete nuclear oblivion for everyone.

Upending the NATO alliance and that status quo would be MASSIVELY detrimental to the relative peace we have now.

GGizmo · 24 Jan 2024 at 18:05

Roar87 said:
Possibly they want to try taking Kyiv again then, but if the Germans have a secret document (lol) then it's no longer a secret and Russia's plans will have likely been changed as a result.

Germany lays out ‘exercise scenario’ for a potential NATO-Russia war

The German Ministry of Defence has sketched out a vision of how Russia's invasion of Ukraine could spillover into a NATO-wide conflict.

www.euronews.com

Just in case anyone was thinking I was making the document up this is a news article that mentions it. Though the leak is that it was made public, not that it was leaked from Russia to Germany.

Narj · 24 Jan 2024 at 18:08

The way the country is going, and given how much contempt our leaders have for us all, I can't say I'd be confident of adequate motivation to defend the place.

slinxy · 24 Jan 2024 at 18:10

I don't think I make the grade, my knees are shot and I'm blind as a bat without glasses.
Also I have a past history of not following orders from muppets.

They may request my services at the modern version of Bletchley Park, and then I would think about it.

Werewolf · 24 Jan 2024 at 18:10

Maybe the best way to avoid the need for conscripts is to actually have a military that isn't being constantly shrunk down by a bunch of idiots. It would also mean we had people who actually wanted to be in the armed forces, and were trained for it.

There seems to be a common thing about those that think conscription or "national service" is a good idea, it's usually coming from people who are too young to have ever been called to national service, and too old to be at risk of being asked for it, and often the sort of people who would be able to ensure their kids/grandkids were not in line to be called up.

My dad, in his 80's missed national service by a couple of years to give an idea of how old you'd have to be to have been called up for it last time.