Soldato
Well then get a bow and arrow and develop some real skill, none of this poxy 'pull the trigger and it does everything for you' nonsense 
Your views on gun laws in the UK
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Soldato
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I have a crossbow; but it's better to use a weapon with better accuracy so you don't bring about unneeded suffering to the animal.Well then get a bow and arrow and develop some real skill, none of this poxy 'pull the trigger and it does everything for you' nonsense
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Its not that hard to make one - A machine pistol can be manufactured very easily as well.
Sorry, missed your reply.
We might as well do away with the legislation designed to help protect us from acts of terrorism then.
After all it's only the activities of a few crazy individuals and we wouldn't want to legislate against the activities of the minority in a "fair, free and Liberal society".
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Caporegime
Poor people.
It would be like Fox hunting on an estate and instead of Fox's you could shoot the lower classes.
Note, I mean the animal, not the dude on here, I wouldn't shoot him.
you seen the price of a decent lathe?
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Anywhere from £30k for a toolroom lathe to £6 million for a CNC machine.
The barrel is the hardest part as it needs precision engineering. It could easily be done if you had access to a machine shop.
Man of Honour
Not in the UK. We have strong defence laws.
No, the media is messed up like that and too many people are content to not think.
I can say with a great deal of confidence that you can't provide any evidence to support your position.
You live in a country where a person quite famously got off after getting a posse together, hunting someone down and making a determined effort to beat them to death purely as revenge.
So either you are a dangerous psychopath who wants the right to torture people to death for your own enjoyment and who sees that as reasonable force or you are talking rubbish.
Do You also like the raised homicide rates relative to neighboring European countries with stricter gun laws?
Man of Honour
1) Mistaken use. People have been shot in the USA because a home owner wrongly thought that they were a threat. All it takes is someone with a gun and a touch of paranoia. Hey, why would anyone be walking up your garden path if they weren't going to break in?
2a) Children. They're curious. Some people will get shot by children if guns are accessible in homes and some children will shoot themselves if guns are accessible in homes.
2b) If guns are not accessible in homes, then they're no use for home defence. If a child can't get access to it in hours, nobody can get access to it in seconds (which is necessary for home defence - you can't expect an intruder to wait a couple of minutes while you access the safe, open the safe, access the ammunition, load the gun and then shoot them).
You can argue that the deaths are a reasonable price to pay for having guns in people's homes, but it's not true that there aren't any problems with it.
Have you got the facts and figures so I can compare them?
Yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence
Switzerland % homicide rate 58%, England 8%
Switzerland firearm homicide rate per 100k population = 0.56, England =0.12
I.e., the rate of deaths by firearms is 5x other in Switzerland than England and wales.
Also stats here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
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What would the homicide rate per 100k be if England had the same population as Switzerland?
7.5 odd million VS 54.5 odd million.
You need to compare absolute homicide rate, not firearm homicides, people without access to guns can just kill with a knife instead.
The list of countries by firearm related death is a bit out-dated. Northern Ireland scores pretty high, but the stats are from 1994. Four years before the signing of the Good Friday Agreement.
Can anyone do the math from my post above? I'm terrible at maths but I gave it a shot... 54.5 divided by 7.5 equals 7.26. 0.12 multiplied by 7.26 equals 0.87. Or am I barking completely up the wrong tree?
Can anyone do the math from my post above? I'm terrible at maths but I gave it a shot... 54.5 divided by 7.5 equals 7.26. 0.12 multiplied by 7.26 equals 0.87. Or am I barking completely up the wrong tree?
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I think you need to go back to school and redo your GCSE maths.
The rate per 100k takes into about pop. size differences.
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You are barking up the complete wrong tree. The numbers are already Normalised by population size.
Homicide rates vary between countries due to a huge range of social economic and cultural issues so the total homicide rate is irrelevant.
the facts remain that countries with legal gun ownership have a higher homicide rate by firearms.
Yes, you can kill someone by other means but nothing else is as effective, lethal, instantaneous and thoughtless than using a gun.