Youtubers asking for donations

Twirlywoos

Twirlywoos

Twirlywoos

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I have been a subscriber to someones channel for a couple of years who makes Battlefield videos, I knew this person through other forums before and even considered him a (virtual) mate. A few months ago he asked for donations so he could buy hardware (144hz monitors, input lag equipment to perform tests). I thought because I enjoyed his videos and these were necessary I would give a little contribution.

In his last video he asked for donations again so he could upgrade his 4 year old hardware. This is his system specs:

➜ CPU: core i7 3770k OC'ed to 4.6GHz
➜ CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
➜ Mainboard: Asus Maximus V Formula
➜ RAM: 32GB (because of Video Editing and CAD)
➜ GPU: ZOTAC GTX 970 (always latest WHQL driver)
➜ Windows 10 Pro 64bit

I understand that donations are voluntary and it's your decision whether the cause is good and justified but to me there is nothing wrong with him using his current hardware to produce videos and asking for donations for this is taking the ****.

I questioned him on his video and was met with negative reactions from his minions. I've heard the expression "If you like my videos please like, favourite and subscribe." But never "If you like my videos please like, favourite, subscribe and donate."

Is this now the norm for content creators on Youtube to ask for money after they get partially successful? Am I being unreasonable as his hardware is really showing it's age with the content he creates? To me he just wants luxury items and I know people will say well if you enjoy his videos and want to make his task easier for him then donate.

I did question him directly and this was his reply.

interesting how you seem to know the challenges I face in the production of my videos due to my current hardware.
Guess you also work a lot with After Effects, 1080p60 material, color correction, 10+ video layer editing and capturing gameplay at 60FPS using dxtory as no other capture tool is able to provide proper video quality? And no, shadowplay does not provide good video quality because thats not what nvec is meant for.

3770 was good enough as long as YT was 30FPS - to work and produce everything in 60FPS is a whole new level where I have to wait for the CPU to finish processing a lot. And that is a problem considering the limited amount of time I have available to produce videos. Most of the time I have to stay up until 3AM just because of all the times I am waiting for the processing to finish, instead of being able to go to bed at 1AM.


So if you don't want to support me then this is okay! But don't tell me that that my hardware is not slowing me down and becoming a problem, as you have no clue what I do here.
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Opinions?
 
Honestly, as far as I am concerned he can ask for donations so that he can splurge on cocaine he snorts off the backsides of prostitutes.

He is streaming and posting videos by his own choice, people are watching and enjoying the content for their own reasons. He is giving a specific reason for the donation, but there really is no need to do so, just asking for donations to 'support' him would be a fair request too.

Given that it is all optional anyway, I personally do not feel it matters what he claims the stuff for - he is providing entertainment, people can pay him or not for his time.
 
I don't see the problem, if people enjoy his show they'll donate otherwise they won't. His spec is better than mine by a mile and I do the same sort of thing to be honest.
 
It's optional, if it was a paywall put up after a period of free videos then maybe I'd be cheesed.

However it's akin to a busker playing in a tube station, you don't have to throw a coin in his hat but you're free to listen to his music as you pass.
 
Twirly, If it's the youtuber I think it is, he genuinely has a reason for wanting high frame rate gear do he can show how it affects the game play (He's the only youtuber who does any reasonable technical analysis of the game and it's engine outside of Symthic).
I don't think he has a sponsor either, I've not seen him do any sponsored videos like some of the other BF youtubers.

Also he needs cash to pay kiwi and me for our cameo roles in his videos! ;)
 
He can ask but doesn't mean he'll get. It's only like the new streamers on twitch that have a massive paypal donate button on their description.

If he's a 'full time youtuber' and legit then he should be covering upgrades with business expenses not asking for donations.
 
I don't mind donations. What I do mind is the slang amojnst streamers. It's driving me insane. I really enjoy Sp4zies vids, but recently, he's started using the puke and fart sounds, calling things disgusting or gross.

I know it's just a trend. But it drives me insane. It's childish and is ruining it for me.
 
his rig will pump 60 fps quite easily in most games. many recording progs will do 60 fps also that's wrong with his equipment . he probably just prefers dxtory.

if hes monetized which im guessing he is that should buy his gear not viewers which in a way already are buying his gear trough watching his videos.

at end of the day its upto him.
 
agnes said:
I don't mind donations. What I do mind is the slang amojnst streamers. It's driving me insane. I really enjoy Sp4zies vids, but recently, he's started using the puke and fart sounds, calling things disgusting or gross.

I know it's just a trend. But it drives me insane. It's childish and is ruining it for me.
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majority of streamers youtubers who make it big need the stupid media . most viewers are young teens watching through media devices. so you satisfy your viewers by screaming being blonde with big boobs or put on annoying will ferral accents :D

or.. you don't go for the cash in and be yourself and take time to build up.
 
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his rig will pump 60 fps quite easily in most games. many recording progs will do 60 fps also that's wrong with his equipment . he probably just prefers dxtory.

if hes monetized which im guessing he is that should buy his gear not viewers which in a way already are buying his gear trough watching his videos.

at end of the day its upto him.
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It's not that he can't produce videos at 60 fps, he also wants to show how input lag is affected by frame rate, and how in the BF engine, server update rate now scales with frame rate. i.e. he want's to show why the 144Hz master race have an advantage in game.
 
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HazardO said:
It's not that he can't produce videos at 60 fps, he wants to show how input lag is affected by frame rate, and how in the BF engine, server update rate now scales with frame rate. i.e. he want's to show why the 144Hz master race have an advantage in game.
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Well, to be onest, while the "experiment" is inteesting, he sould buy it himself, he has enough to keep making videos and at a great framerate too. I would be happy to donate small amounts here and there to improve a YT channel if I could afford it, I even considered donating a little to corridor digital to help them keep their videos awesome, but I just dont have the funds to properly pay my bills and feed myself these days.
 
Which streamer are you on about by the way?

I watch;

FRANKIEOnPCin1080p
Sp4zie
Lobos Jr
EpicNameBro
Scott Manley

All for different reasons. The ones that keep with the 'trends' the most are Sp4zie and Lobos Jr. The others just play the games and enjoy what they do as a hobby. And as a result, I enjoy their content more.

As you say though, kids enjoy the screaming silly ness. I'm late 20's and enjoy a video or 2 once or twice a week to switch off. It beats 90% of the stuff on TV.
 
I can understand asking for donations: creating a good quality product takes a lot of time. If the channel is popular they will likely be making money from the partnership programme, but there is always that scary hinterland where you aren't quite making enough money from the new venture and yet it's taking enough time to almost be a job itself.
 
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