Zen 3D V-Cache Ryzen CPUs May be Available in December 2021

LePhuronn · 23 Sep 2021 at 15:55

Cyber-Mav said:
Amd doesnt have a lead over intel like intel did over bulldozer. People making it out like zen3 has 60%+ ipc over skylake

Show me. Link right here one single post where anybody has said. Besides, what in the blue hell does that have to do with anything? The Intel circle jerk is perfectly content to shout loudly about single digit wins over Ryzen in a single metric when that's all Intel had going for it, but because AMD's dominance isn't "as big" as the Faildozer era it doesn't count?

Seriously, how can you not recoil in embarrassment at the utter crap you incessantly post?

TNA · 23 Sep 2021 at 15:58

jigger said:
How unobservant of you.

Either that or you are just seeing things, which would not surprise me

Minstadave · 23 Sep 2021 at 15:59

Cyber-Mav said:
Amd doesnt have a lead over intel like intel did over bulldozer. People making it out like zen3 has 60%+ ipc over skylake

AMD does have 100% more cores on their top end product for almost half the power usage currently, it's a pretty substantial lead in that area.

humbug · 23 Sep 2021 at 15:59

LePhuronn said:
Show me. Link right here one single post where anybody has said. Besides, what in the blue hell does that have to do with anything? The Intel circle jerk is perfectly content to shout loudly about single digit wins over Ryzen in a single metric when that's all Intel had going for it, but because AMD's dominance isn't "as big" as the Faildozer era it doesn't count?

Seriously, how can you not recoil in embarrassment at the utter crap you incessantly post?

Ask him to point to an Intel CPU that can get 40,000 Points in R23, let alone 80,000 points.... the raw performance lead is massive. and the PPW advantage ain't bad either.....

jigger · 23 Sep 2021 at 16:00

TNA said:
Either that or you are just seeing things, which would not surprise me

Im blind

and even I can see. I’m surprised you never noticed.

jigger · 23 Sep 2021 at 16:16

LePhuronn said:
More like Intel diehards incapable of engaging in proper discussion and throwing all manner of pie-in-the-sky crap out there, then getting childish when their "points" are refuted. It just so happens some of those refuting are of a pro-AMD persuasion.

The nonsense is intensional though. Our resident trolls are fully what they’re posting is fud as it’s usually been pointed out and debunked many times before.

TNA · 23 Sep 2021 at 16:30

jigger said:
Im blind and even I can see. I’m surprised you never noticed.

I do not browse the CPU section that much relative to the GPU section. Maybe give me some recent examples? Then again you was meant to do that with your systems but never did so I won't hold my breath.

jigger said:
Im blind

Also, that does explain a lot

jigger · 23 Sep 2021 at 16:32

TNA said:
I do not browse the CPU section that much relative to the GPU section. Maybe give me some recent examples? Then again you was meant to do that with your systems but never did so I won't hold my breath.

I did, you said you wasn’t interested. More nonsense, but page 13 and 14 of this thread…

Cyber-Mav · 23 Sep 2021 at 16:42

Minstadave said:
AMD does have 100% more cores on their top end product for almost half the power usage currently, it's a pretty substantial lead in that area.

Got a link to these benches?

TNA · 23 Sep 2021 at 16:44

jigger said:
I did, you said you wasn’t interested. More nonsense, but page 13 and 14 of this thread…

Lol. Love how you have answered nothing (like last time) and attempting to now say I am speaking nonsense. You do not do well under pressure do you? If LeFuryOn was a Intel fanboy he would tear you to shreds :cry:

Joxeon · 23 Sep 2021 at 16:45

humbug said:
I have never seen anyone say AMD did, but thier performance and efficiency lead over Intel is substantial enough to be obvious to all but the most ignorant to this space, its substantial enough to have killed Intel's prised HEDT segment stone dead.
AMD's mainstream CPU's are faster than Intel's HEDT. AMD's HEDT are on an entirely different level. One that is utterly unachievable by Intel.

Intels single core performance is pretty much on par with AMD but 2 main issues for Intel are efficiency and multicore performance and atleast one of those will be addressed with Alderlake.

jigger · 23 Sep 2021 at 17:46

TNA said:
Lol. Love how you have answered nothing (like last time) and attempting to now say I am speaking nonsense. You do not do well under pressure do you? If LeFuryOn was a Intel fanboy he would tear you to shreds

Hahaha I must have really dragged you over the coals.

Cyber-Mav · 23 Sep 2021 at 17:54

Joxeon said:
Intels single core performance is pretty much on par with AMD but 2 main issues for Intel are efficiency and multicore performance and atleast one of those will be addressed with Alderlake.

Also price.
Not only is intel expensive on cpu but the extra heat and power consumption drive up the system cost needing bigger Psu and more expensive cooling.

TNA · 23 Sep 2021 at 18:25

jigger said:
Hahaha I must have really dragged you over the coals.

Yeah, must be that :rolleyes:

LePhuronn · 23 Sep 2021 at 18:46

TNA said:
If LeFuryOn was a Intel fanboy he would tear you to shreds

I'm a fanboy for whoever is empirically superior, but that fanboyism is actually nothing more than debunking idiot circle jerkers with facts interpreted as fanboyism by those who cry loudly when proven to be moronic.

Dunner worry, if Meteor Lake pans out the way it's rumoured, I'll be Team Intel for a while :cry:

Truth be told, if the low-end Alder Lake parts really do end up performing as speculated, I'll probably end up doing an all-Intel build with Alder Lake and Alchemist for my birthday next July.

jigger · 23 Sep 2021 at 20:15

LePhuronn said:
I'm a fanboy for whoever is empirically superior, but that fanboyism is actually nothing more than debunking idiot circle jerkers with facts interpreted as fanboyism by those who cry loudly when proven to be moronic.

Dunner worry, if Meteor Lake pans out the way it's rumoured, I'll be Team Intel for a while

Truth be told, if the low-end Alder Lake parts really do end up performing as speculated, I'll probably end up doing an all-Intel build with Alder Lake and Alchemist for my birthday next July.

If Intel release a Gracemount chip akin to a Xeon 1260l v5 I’d be interested. 3x4c modules with mobile levels of power linked to a large chunk of Rambo Cache and I’d be interested. It would have to hit close to 3900/5900X performance for less money and power use though.

LePhuronn · 23 Sep 2021 at 20:20

Can you imagine a purely Gracemont CPU in a desktop package? 4 Gracemont cores takes up the same space as 1 Golden Cove Cores. Dear God, imagine if Intel managed to work out a proper interconnect and casually drop a 40c/40t CPU on the market...

jigger · 23 Sep 2021 at 20:30

It would be all kinds of awesome. ECC support, a dozen 6gb/s SATA ports, 7 PCI-E slots with bifurcation and grouping control. Could even tempt me to become a DDR5 beta tester.

jigger · 26 Sep 2021 at 22:25

LePhuronn said:
Can you imagine a purely Gracemont CPU in a desktop package? 4 Gracemont cores takes up the same space as 1 Golden Cove Cores. Dear God, imagine if Intel managed to work out a proper interconnect and casually drop a 40c/40t CPU on the market...

Looks like AMD beat Intel to it 100-000000504