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Zen news 'Going forward'

They may be forced to reduce the price of their higher core count CPU's if AMD are significantly cheaper and sell in enough numbers. Which is no guarantee as a lot of people buy for the Intel brand more than anything.
 
I agree Intel have a higher profile in the same way Nvidia do in the GPU market. Personally I weigh up performance vs price and buy the best option in my budget. Last time Intel won quite easily, I had a few nice Athlons before that.

If AMD can bring out a competitive 6/8 core it could be very good for everyone. They used to get my vote as their platform as a whole used to be cheaper and they didn't change socket every five minutes!

If they can do the same this time whilst also maintaining the quality I'll be happy to upgrade my 2500K to a Zen. With this and the new gen GPU's it's could be an interesting H2 for 2016, assuming everyone delivers on time ;)
 
Same here, frankly If Zen is good I don't care if Intel still overprice their range, I'm not a brand whore, I'll always get the best I can for my money. Blue, Green or Red..... I don't care about any of that nonsense
 
Everybody buys the best they can for their money but to say you're not a brand whore humbug is laughable, you spend all day every day 'supporting' AMD on these forums and knocking Intel/NVidia at every opportunity. Just because you happen to own superior Intel/NVidia products and display them in your signature doesn't suddenly make you brand agnostic. You only own Intel/NVidia currently because AMD have fallen so far behind as to become an irrelevance in enthusiast markets.

Also you'd like nothing better than Zen to be good and Intel to still be overpriced because that would mean AMD would have become successful again.
 
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mmj_uk said:
Everybody buys the best they can for their money but to say you're not a brand whore humbug is laughable, you spend all day every day 'supporting' AMD on these forums and knocking Intel/NVidia at every opportunity. Just because you happen to own superior Intel/NVidia products and display them in your signature doesn't suddenly make you brand agnostic.
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You're problem with me is I am brand agnostic, I'm critical of all brands including AMD, no one was more critical of AMD'S Hawaii rebrands and I actually did something about it, I think there current line of CPU'S is too old and inefficient, I did something about it. I don't like somethings about Intel and Nvidia, the latter two are the only area you constantly disagree with me. Your argument is because I don't shill for Intel and Nvidia I'm an AMD fanboi, you're being ridiculous. The tone of your post says it all.
 
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I'm critical of Intel and NVidia at times and I own plenty of AMD products but I wouldn't describe myself as brand agnostic, I have a preference towards Intel/NVidia when it comes to everything apart from saving money at any cost. Your preference has also been obvious to anyone who has read your posts in recent times.

I don't mind people who have obvious biases towards particular companies it's just ridiculous when they suddenly buy products from the competitor because they have no other choice and then go around claiming to be unbiased.
 
Troezar said:
That's very interesting. Do you work for Intel? Looks like there may be a chance for AMD then, that is good news.

I am surprised Intel haven't brought out anything more than a quad core for the mainstream desktops and was even more surprised to see most of the mobile i5 cpu's seem to be dual core (+2 hyper threads). I presume they must think that's all laptops require atm or is it a power saving exercise?
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Mostly heat reduction - so power saving, but with a different goal. Less heat allows smaller form factor laptops etc.
 
David Bisset said:
Mostly heat reduction - so power saving, but with a different goal. Less heat allows smaller form factor laptops etc.
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Which seems to fit with my earlier thoughts that Intel could up the performance if they wanted to but it doesn't fit with their low power strategy at the moment.

I'm hoping a resurgence at the top end of PC gaming with VR incoming and 4K now a thing there will be more incentive to go for more performance and a bit of an arms race.
 
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I'm critical of Intel and NVidia at times and I own plenty of AMD products but I wouldn't describe myself as brand agnostic, I have a preference towards Intel/NVidia when it comes to everything apart from saving money at any cost. Your preference has also been obvious to anyone who has read your posts in recent times.

I don't mind people who have obvious biases towards particular companies it's just ridiculous when they suddenly buy products from the competitor because they have no other choice and then go around claiming to be unbiased.
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I must have missed your criticisms of Intel and Nvidia, what are they?
no one in their right mind pressmues to know what others think and attribute those assumptions to inderviduals, I don't know what others think, all I know is what I think prompts you to make such a bizarre statement.

Your last point is really very bizarre.
People who are staunch supporters of one brand don't then use a different brand and display said brand choice in their signature, it's as you say an admittance of a brand preffrance at the time.

Just accept others have opinions which jar with your's, that not everyone thinks in such binary terms as you put it "one brand is superior" and then go on the offensive about an inderviduals personality and agenda, doing that it's no wonder you are so paranoid about what others think
 
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I've just need reading an article on the Motley Fool claiming Zen will only have 16 PCIE lanes and dual channel memory. I hadn't heard this before is there any evidence for this claim?

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...ps-apollo-lake-to-have-minimal-impact-on.aspx
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Author: Ashraf Eassa.

I know him from elsewhere, he's an AMD hatting Troll, he lost a fortune investing in AMD, back before the crash everyone got out of everything including AMD, he didn't, like an ######## he lost a bit because he didn't get out fast enough, he stuck with it thinking they would bounce back so he could recover his looses, a lot of people told him to cut his looses to get out immediately as the stock was heading for rock bottom. he didn't listen and lost a lot.
Since then he's been writing trolling articles like this.
 
humbug said:
Author: Ashraf Eassa.

I know him from elsewhere, he's an AMD hatting Troll, he lost a fortune investing in AMD, back before the crash everyone got out of everything including AMD, he didn't, like an ######## he lost a bit because he didn't get out fast enough, he stuck with it thinking they would bounce back so he could recover his looses, a lot of people told him to cut his looses to get out immediately as the stock was heading for rock bottom. he didn't listen and lost a lot.
Since then he's been writing trolling articles like this.
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That's very interesting. I felt there was more to it than meet the eye, especially as I wasn't aware that there had been any leaks relating to Zen architecture. It's looking like a fun year ahead for speculation ;) I'm hoping AMD pull it out the bag but if they don't I won't buy second best for any given price point just to support the underdog.
 
Its from Fudzilla, does this look like an AMD slide?

It'd be an awesome APU if it were true, 32 Threads, 16GB HBM2..... sounds too good to be true. Like someone's dream APU

 
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I can't see 16gb being used usefully with an apu though. They just are not powerful enough (it does say up to)
 
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