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ZEN SR7 Rumoured January 17th Release
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Whatever quad core replaces the Athlon 860K should be around £100. Maybe less than 100.
The 860K.... one of AMD's budget options that gets fairly comprehensively beaten by a dual core Pentium?.
I do hope the Zen quads are a hell of a lot better than the 860K..... I suspect that the Zen quads will be quite a lot better than the 860K and consequently talk of AMD selling unlocked quad core Zen CPU's for around £100 in the UK can be consigned to the realms of fantasy.
860K pricing did/ does not reflect that its a quad core processor to be compared to Intel quad cores so much as it reflects that its trying to compete with budget Intel dual core processors.
The second you throw a desktop Intel quad core processor into the mix you see the 860K for the inferior budget product that it is.
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^ The Pentium has disappeared completely from Tom's budget CPU recommendations as of this year. That Techspot advice is pretty out of date.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html
The only low end option is the 860K. An i3 is a step up (mid range) and an i5 high end IMO and according to Tom's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html
The only low end option is the 860K. An i3 is a step up (mid range) and an i5 high end IMO and according to Tom's.
Or as I like to call the £60 gem of an ulocked quad core thats getting replaced with something faster for about the same price. I actually upgraded from a Pentium K dual core to the 860K. Was a very decent upgrade.
AMD are already offing an unlocked quad core for £60. So it looks certain TBowerbank will get an unlocked chip for £100.
Also probably worth mentioning that an unlocked Intel quad core would be £230-£330~
*Immediately begins social engineering all those accounts Sampsy and Dazzerd use that moronically force them to use date of birth as a means of proving identity.*
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Lol, spot on.
Its not a quad core in the same sense as an Intel quad core though is it thanks to AMD's 'interesting' CPU layout? For some one calling other peoples fan boys you certainly have drunk the AMD marketing Kool Aid about their current 'quad' and 'octo' core processors which don't compare at all to current Intel quad and octo core processors with the current AMD chips inferior CPU layout, generally terrible IPC and appalling efficiency per watt.
The 860K isn't a bad chip for the price and to point out the obvious in reverse its price is directly a factor of its performance compared to Intel chips. The same will be true of Zen... Its either another AMD over hyped disappointment so the prices will quickly have to reach a reasonable price/performance parity with similarly performing Intel chips or it will in deed have circa Haswell level per core IPC in which case its price will reflect this (of course some scenario somewhere between these two is possible and the price will just adjust to factor this)
But thinking that you going to get a Haswell (or better?) level IPC unlocked quad core for circa £100 is pure fantasy.
So this AMD's 'quad' core CPU is still way inferior to a 'mid range' i3 HT Intel dual core? Don't point this out to Jigger who seems to think that AMD are the coming messiah to save us from Intel's tyranny despite them trying to attach a premium price ($900+) to one of their recent inferior CPU's and the fact that they used to charge a premium price for their CPU's back when they were competitive at the high end like the likes of the 2003 - $733 launch price - FX51, that's $960+ in 2016 $$$'s (circa £940 in 2016 £££'s)
Anyway the fact that Toms consider an i3 'midrange' and a 6500 'high end' shows where I have to part ways with their opinion a 6700K may be considered 'high end' IMO with a X99 CPU being the Enthusiast/ Extreme option... the 6500 is a decidedly mid range option with its lack of hyper threading and unlocked multiplier now starting to show up as a serious deficiency in running games and apps with high settings
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Toms has cpu's devided up by price the entry level below 100$ the mid range 100-200$ and high end is above 200$.
If you read the page they agree with you.
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does the Zen range have an iGPU?
I really didn't read that much hyperbole into Jigger's post at all tbh.
The APU yes, 'standard' Zen no.
To be released a little after the non-iGPU range. Raven Ridge are the ones with iGPUs and Summit Ridge are the ones with no iGPU.
Have a browse over his posting history.....
That and she/he's apparently convinced themselves that an 860K is a 'quad' core CPU comparable to a contemporary Intel desktop quad and that even more tellingly predicts boldly that AMD are going to deliver a Haswell-E level IPC unlocked quad core for circa £100 based on the 860K being a 'quad core' CPU that retails for around £60-70 so surely a Zen quad wont cost much more no?
Nope still disagree with Toms. Intel have been very consistent for a while with their top end consumer CPU's being being priced around $300-$350 and their 'Enthusiast CPU's retailing for (sometimes a lot) more. To say $200 is 'high end' is laughable by this distribution of pricing. As I have already shown when AMD could compete at the high end their pricing was not too dissimilar with the FX51 costing very close to £1000 in 2016 £££'s
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Is this an official release date?
I'm always suspicious of these leaks that give a date just after the holidays. Christmas or back to school.
If you can deliver, you would do it prior to the hols, if you can't, you leak a fake date after the hols, and hope people don't spend their money elsewhere.
Not convinced they will make January, and if they do it'll be mostly paper.
If I'm wrong, then I'll be happy, hell very happy, for you to quote me saying so.
I'm always suspicious of these leaks that give a date just after the holidays. Christmas or back to school.
If you can deliver, you would do it prior to the hols, if you can't, you leak a fake date after the hols, and hope people don't spend their money elsewhere.
Not convinced they will make January, and if they do it'll be mostly paper.
If I'm wrong, then I'll be happy, hell very happy, for you to quote me saying so.