Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

MarcLister · 16 Aug 2011 at 16:22

simulatorman said:
The court has partly lifted the preliminary injunction:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/german-court-lifts-ban-on-some-european-samsung-galaxy-10-1-sale/

Found a quote I really like from that article:

Sales of the device were originally banned following an Apple lawsuit alleging patent infringement, but were permitted to resume after a realization that a German court may not have the authority to halt sales of a South Korean company's device outside of Germany.

My thinking....really?! It's not a European court in Brussels or wherever they are based. It's a German court so any judgement can surely only apply to German territory. Apple either need to apply for an injunction to a European court or apply for injunctions in every single EU country.

Pigeon_Killer · 16 Aug 2011 at 16:27

MarcLister said:
My thinking....really?! It's not a European court in Brussels or wherever they are based. It's a German court so any judgement can surely only apply to German territory. Apple either need to apply for an injunction to a European court or apply for injunctions in every single EU country.

Ordinarily I would agree but given the size of the case and the amount of money Samsung have got to ***** on lawyers surely they didn't hire morons? :confused:

If they did I'm taking up law, I'm easily as thick as them.

MarcLister · 16 Aug 2011 at 16:35

Pigeon_Killer said:
Ordinarily I would agree but given the size of the case and the amount of money Samsung have got to ***** on lawyers surely they didn't hire morons?

If they did I'm taking up law, I'm easily as thick as them.

I know, it just doesn't make sense. Imagine if Apple went to some court in Manchester and got the right to ban sales of ALL tablets that are rectangular in Europe. The governments in Europe would go mental. I think Apple have been playing some game here by getting an injunction in Germany and then pretending it applies to the EU states because the injunction was granted by a court from a country in the EU. This and the misleading picture of the Galaxy Tab make me think that Apple and their lawyers are either being very stupid or very mischievous.

bam0 · 16 Aug 2011 at 16:45

Pigeon_Killer said:
Ordinarily I would agree but given the size of the case and the amount of money Samsung have got to ***** on lawyers surely they didn't hire morons?

If they did I'm taking up law, I'm easily as thick as them.

The German court Apple went to doesn't require that the other party be informed of the case. Essentially Apple put together their case, went to the Judge who agreed with them and issued an injunction. Samsung had no chance to argue against the initial case they now have to appeal it.

muon · 16 Aug 2011 at 17:00

Mr Paul said:
Love this pic

Yep. The most obvious place to look is the circle icons like voice search or clock. Stretched sideways.

photoshop · 16 Aug 2011 at 17:17

Inconsistencies?

- Photoshopping buttons to the left from the right.
- removing location of camera and light sensor.
- Making the app drawer seem like its the homescreen.
- Altering dimensions of the tablet to match those of the iPad.
- Seems more than just "inconsistencies."

But..but... Apple haz 3 phones with the GB's and the WIFI's!!!
It can do anyting rite???

Somewhere in Appleland Steve Jobs must be getting really mad! First the Moto-Google deal yesterday and now this ban lifted.

Fallen god · 17 Aug 2011 at 03:02

Kinda stuff that makes me really hate apple and there underhanded games there always playing. Hope Mr Job's really get it for this.

Bennie-Mac · 19 Aug 2011 at 16:23

It would also seem that Apple has allegedly played the same trick with the comparison photos between the iPhone and the Galaxy S2 during the Netherlands court case.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/

Pigeon_Killer · 19 Aug 2011 at 16:26

Aren't they essentially falsifying evidence? That could and should land them in big trouble shouldn't it.

mrk · 19 Aug 2011 at 16:28

Why are they showing the Galaxy S and not the S2 in that diagram?

Robbo · 19 Aug 2011 at 16:29

They are either legally allowed to do that to demonstrate a point against the design of it, rather than the size, or the courts are utterly stupid and Samsung's lawyers are hopeless.

In fairness, the original Galaxy S was a massive rip-off of the iPhone 3G/3GS.

Sunbed · 19 Aug 2011 at 16:36

Yeh they must be allowed to do it. Can't see many courts allowing the ban now though, surely they will argue that the competition is needed blah blah?

Robbo · 19 Aug 2011 at 16:42

Sundance said:
Yeh they must be allowed to do it. Can't see many courts allowing the ban now though, surely they will argue that the competition is needed blah blah?

That is what I assume it will boil down to in the end, yeah.

Nexus18 · 19 Aug 2011 at 17:12

God! if they do ban the GS line in EU (can't see it happening though), imagine what the prices of apples iphones will rise to then :eek:

Wicksta · 19 Aug 2011 at 17:30

Wicksta · 19 Aug 2011 at 17:32

Of course if the creator of that pic had 'done an Apple' properly they would have changed the skin on the iPhone to be a monochrome one.

loltim · 19 Aug 2011 at 17:34

mrk said:
Why are they showing the Galaxy S and not the S2 in that diagram?

They've just enlarged a Galaxy S lol. Bad form Apple!

Nexus18 · 19 Aug 2011 at 17:38

As I said in the other thread that robbo created.

How can apple even sue another company for creating a mobile that looks similar when there have been mobiles in the past that were created before the iphone as shown that look just as similar as the iphone?

Calabi · 19 Aug 2011 at 17:43

Even if they do win I cant see this being a good thing for Apple. If they do win then no competition no ideas to steal, and the market for tablets would basically be destroyed. Not everyone can afford to or will buy an Apple.

And It'll show up the patent system, put it under a lot of scrutiny.

Robbo · 19 Aug 2011 at 17:49

Lol Wicksta, you know that picture is fake, right?