Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

AndyCr15 · 14 Aug 2011 at 17:22

They sell a lot of devices, certainly. I don't think anyone would argue with that.

Robbo · 14 Aug 2011 at 17:23

dasyad said:
I think people need to stop bashing things as x vs y when in fact both x and y are very good at what they do. Things being different doesn't necessarily make them bad

You're forgetting that it's cool to hate Apple. :cool:

AndyCr15 · 14 Aug 2011 at 17:24

dasyad said:
I don't think there is anyway someone could say with a straight face that the iPhone is any less useful at being a phone than say a Nokia, BlackBerry or any other Android phone. Arguably the only thing it is less useful at is the fringe features such as HDMI out and DLNA etc.

Again, that's probably dependant on each person and what they want to do with it. Apple don't allow A LOT of stuff. It's really quite common to hear people annoyed with their iPhone because the website they're trying to view uses flash. You could argue this makes it less useful than an SGSII...

Granted Apple are copying some of the useful stuff from Android, such as Notifications, but still, I have a lot of really useful Widgets.

AndyCr15 · 14 Aug 2011 at 17:25

Robbo said:
You're forgetting that it's cool to hate Apple.

I dunno. I think it's becoming too common these days, everyone's at it.

Like it used to be cool to own an iPhone (in many people's eyes). Nowadays it's not seen so much that way.

Robbo · 14 Aug 2011 at 17:28

AndyCr15 said:
Again, that's probably dependant on each person and what they want to do with it. Apple don't allow A LOT of stuff. It's really quite common to hear people annoyed with their iPhone because the website they're trying to view uses flash. You could argue this makes it less useful than an SGSII...

Yet I've never heard anyone complain about that, I'm sure some people do though.

You could make a better case for Flash on the iPad than the iPhone. Flash is also a bit temperamental and isn't all that great on a touch screen - I know.

I can pretty much make a good case for and against any top-end mobile device depending on the person, you can't simply say that one is better than the other without knowing what they are going to use it for.

Which is why when people make a thread asking what phone is best, I always end up asking their uses; that is the key.

dasyad · 14 Aug 2011 at 17:29

AndyCr15 said:
Again, that's probably dependant on each person and what they want to do with it. Apple don't allow A LOT of stuff. It's really quite common to hear people annoyed with their iPhone because the website they're trying to view uses flash. You could argue this makes it less useful than an SGSII...

True it is very dependant on each person. I would argue that the majority of the public just need their phones currently to send texts, make calls, listen to music and browse the odd web site.

Yes lack of Flash makes it less useful when you need to view something with Flash but in all honesty how often do you need to do that? There is usually a reasonable alternative. Hell on my SGSII I have Flash disabled

. In terms of main stream features the SGSII and the iPhone are both very very good phones.

Again yes Apple disallow a lot of things in their app store but it does seem to work quite well. Yes the Android market is more open and I personally think it is great we have these 2 different eco systems that work in different ways, it gives us the freedom of choice.

Cosimo · 15 Aug 2011 at 13:46

I didn’t think it would go this far but Samsung Germany and UK have now removed references to the 10.1 from their sites.

Robbo · 15 Aug 2011 at 13:46

simulatorman said:
I didn’t think it would go this far but Samsung Germany and UK have now removed references to the 10.1 from their sites.

:/

Cosimo · 15 Aug 2011 at 14:08

Robbo said:
:/

Looks like your keyboard has dropped some charcaters.

Frapple · 15 Aug 2011 at 14:52

Boooo! Just about to get a new phone contract at work & they were offering a free tablet as an incentive.

Really don't want to be touching Apple products - the asus transformer any good compared to the 10.1? .mkv playback over network would be a must have feature for me.

Mr Paul · 15 Aug 2011 at 16:57

Use Diceplayer for MKV H/W playback.

PlumpMonkey · 15 Aug 2011 at 19:39

Apple used some sneaky tactics in getting the Galaxy Tab banned. When I say sneaky, I mean they lied.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/apples-evidence-in-european-galaxy-tab-injunction-was-seriously-misleading-as-in-false/

sunny007 · 15 Aug 2011 at 19:46

Haha

they used the old galaxy !!

Wicksta · 15 Aug 2011 at 20:23

That's not the old Galaxy. Big trouble for Apple though!

PlumpMonkey · 15 Aug 2011 at 20:56

I hope they get burnt at the stake for falsifying court evidence.

I would laugh even more if Samsung can counter sue for lost sales.

Cosimo · 15 Aug 2011 at 22:39

More on the false evidence:

http://translate.google.com/transla...ert-onjuist-bewijs-in-zaak-tegen-samsung.html

I hope Apple get more than their fingers burnt.

dasyad · 15 Aug 2011 at 22:45

Allegedly only got one picture wrong

Cosimo · 16 Aug 2011 at 08:04

dasyad said:
Allegedly only got one picture wrong

Yes only one but it is such a glaring mistake. That one diagram shows how eager they are to put the boot in. It’s just crass manipulation and I hope they pay for it.

Cosimo · 16 Aug 2011 at 16:07

The court has partly lifted the preliminary injunction:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/german-court-lifts-ban-on-some-european-samsung-galaxy-10-1-sale/

Mr Paul · 16 Aug 2011 at 16:10

Love this pic