Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

reefoid · 3 Jul 2011 at 09:40

englishpremier said:
Don't samsung supply a lot of the components that make up the iphone? If Apple are suing them, they would just refuse to supply them in the future. In the grand scheme of things, Apple is a tiny nothing of company compared to Samsung

Last article I read about this, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Samsung get around $8 billion per year in revenue from Apple, hardly small change. Their total revenue is around $120 billion dollars, so around 7% of their revenue comes from Apple components. Might not be a big portion, but I'm sure their shareholders would be none too pleased to lose this market.

And as for Apple being nothing compared to Samsung, not sure I agree with that. Wish I could find the article now as I'm terrible at remembering these things, but most of Samsung's market is low-profit, mass produced stuff plus they have little cash in the bank. Whereas Apple are high-profit and have around $70 billion sitting in the bank.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 3 Jul 2011 at 10:49

reefoid said:
And as for Apple being nothing compared to Samsung, not sure I agree with that. Wish I could find the article now as I'm terrible at remembering these things, but most of Samsung's market is low-profit, mass produced stuff plus they have little cash in the bank. Whereas Apple are high-profit and have around $70 billion sitting in the bank.

Samsung is a multinational conglomerate corporation which is the biggest electronics company in the world and the biggest conglomerate. They have commercial and military concerns too. Parts of the company are involved in shipbuilding,military robotics and development of armoured vehicles. They are even involved in things such as life insurance. You really underestimate how massive a company they are and Samsung as a group made over $170 billion in revenue in 2009. They had assets of around $295 billion dollars(Apple had around $75 billion in 2010) and over $110 billion dollars in equity in 2009 too(Apple had around $48 billion in 2010). Samsung electronics did make around 60% of the profits of the group in 2009 though, although it only comprised around 33% of its assets. Samsung Telecommunications is one of the five units which comprise Samsung Electronics.

Apple is doing very well but Samsung is a much bigger company which has a more diverse range of investments.

Robbo · 3 Jul 2011 at 12:09

Apple aren't 'nothing' compared to Samsung, but Samsung are much bigger on the whole.

Cosimo · 1 Aug 2011 at 12:35

This continues and it appears that Samsung have agreed to stop advertising the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia and not to sell the device until it wins court approval or the lawsuit is resolved:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...samsung-from-selling-tablet-in-australia.html

Robbo · 1 Aug 2011 at 15:34

Hm, that's not really very good for Samsung.

DefiantAsh · 1 Aug 2011 at 21:39

Ouch, what about those who already own a 10.1? (got it for free/from eBay)?

Also i've skip read this, but why only in Australia? Surely it won't be much of a big issue, since the majority of Aus' is the outback?

I would think revenue would be stable enough from USA/European Sales and of course, Asian sales.

Also will people in Aus' be able to import the 10.1 or buy from say eBay and have it shipped to them?

Tute · 2 Aug 2011 at 00:32

RKO said:
That is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

What happened to beating the competition by simply MAKING A BETTER PRODUCT?

:rolleyes:

to Apple.

to Samsung. Grow up, both of you.

b0rn2sk8 · 2 Aug 2011 at 00:49

The whole aus thing is because of a separate law suit within that country.

Cosimo · 2 Aug 2011 at 09:53

Well Samsung come back and say they will be launching in Australia and it will not be the US version:

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-australian-galaxy-tab-10-1-sales-will-go-ahead-20110802/

Waits for a silly response from Apple.

Robbo · 9 Aug 2011 at 20:39

Looks like Apple are winning...

German Apple suit ruling blocks Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 sale in Europe

The plot thickens yet again in the seemingly endless patent war between Apple and Samsung. A new ruling by a regional court in Dusseldorf, Germany has granted Cupertino a preliminary injunction, blocking the sale and advertising of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 across Europe, save for the Netherlands. Samsung can still appeal the ruling -- in the meanwhile, however, the decision will stand. According to The Telegraph, the likely appeal will take about a month to be heard by the judge who granted the injunction.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/09/german-apple-suit-ruling-blocks-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-sale-in/

cu3ed · 10 Aug 2011 at 00:19

Apple are just being scared Pee holes now.

nate922 · 10 Aug 2011 at 00:23

In the spirit of competition let samsung sell the tablets !

joey1211 · 10 Aug 2011 at 10:36

How does a regional court in Germany ban the sale across the whole of Europe, save for the Netherlands? :confused:

Must resist urge.........

Who won the war anyway?

englishpremier · 10 Aug 2011 at 10:43

Which war?

The Korean war?

The Crimean war?

The Boar war?

Cosimo · 10 Aug 2011 at 10:49

joey1211 said:
How does a regional court in Germany ban the sale across the whole of Europe, save for the Netherlands?

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/why-samsung-was-not-put-on-notice.html

Cosimo · 10 Aug 2011 at 16:37

The Apple madness continues with Motorola and the Xoom:

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/apple-is-also-suing-motorola-in-europe.html

bam0 · 10 Aug 2011 at 16:53

simulatorman said:
The Apple madness continues with Motorola and the Xoom:

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/apple-is-also-suing-motorola-in-europe.html

Apple really are taking the **** with this now. How in the hell did they get a design right to something like this? http://www.scribd.com/doc/61944044/Community-Design-000181607-0001

joey1211 · 10 Aug 2011 at 16:56

They seem to be taking advantage of a broken system.

Emlyn_Dewar · 10 Aug 2011 at 17:44

Very low, screams of "toys out the pram" syndrome.
The Samsung product is, in my eyes, the superior bit of kit.

If you can't beat them, tell tales and get them in trouble. It's the Apple way.

Robbo · 10 Aug 2011 at 17:49

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Very low, screams of "toys out the pram" syndrome.
The Samsung product is, in my eyes, the superior bit of kit.

While some people think so, on the whole it really isn't.

Emlyn_Dewar said:
If you can't beat them, tell tales and get them in trouble. It's the Apple way.

It's just business, it seems petty but everyone does it, Apple just seem to have a superior legal team.

I don't think Apple are too worried about beating everyone, because generally, they already are