Neighbours - Am I being unresonable?

He's a numpty. If you live in a block of flats, you expect some sound from time to time. The flats I lived in last year were fairly well sound-proofed. None of the neighbours ever complained about noise, regardless of who was making it. We all used common sense... if one of the flats was making lots of noise, we'd wear earplugs. Job done. Most nights, at least one set of neighbours, or myself would have music on loud, friends round, tv, etc all night long.

If someone had banged on my wall, I'd just turn the music up on the assumption it wasn't loud enough for them to enjoy. Being a passive aggressive knob is just weak.
 
Hellsmk2 said:
He's a numpty. If you live in a block of flats, you expect some sound from time to time. The flats I lived in last year were fairly well sound-proofed. None of the neighbors ever complained about noise, regardless of who was making it. We all used common sense... if one of the flats was making lots of noise, we'd wear earplugs. Job done. Most nights, at least one set of neighbors, or myself would have music on loud, friends round, TV, etc all night long.

If someone had banged on my wall, I'd just turn the music up on the assumption it wasn't loud enough for them to enjoy. Being a passive aggressive knob is just weak.
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I'm glad I don't live next door to you !
You can't expect your neighbors to sit in their own house wearing earplugs ,how are they suppose to talk to each other !
Occasional noise is ok but often its most of the time and when someone has complained and its ignored its the sign of a low IQ
 
romperstomper said:
I'm glad I don't live next door to you !
You can't expect your neighbors to sit in their own house wearing earplugs ,how are they suppose to talk to each other !
Occasional noise is ok but often its most of the time and when someone has complained and its ignored its the sign of a low IQ
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Quiet easily. If I was sleeping and one of my neighbours had a few folk round beng loud all night, I put my ear plugs in. If I was awake and they were being noisy, I didn't care. Why should I?

They worked on the same principle and as a result everyone got on fine - with no complaints.
 
If you were doing what MY neighbours currently are* then I would be round pronto to hit you in the face ;) However your habits sound perfectly reasonable, I wouldnt worry, they will get used to it or move out :)

*Starting at 6:45 this morning (yes its Sunday) and still going on till now (and beyond by the sounds of it...) they are literally blasting dance/trance music with a really fast beat and shouting their heads off, luckily as I'm also ill I really appreciate being woken up 3 hours after i managed to drop off last night.. oh wait no i dont.
 
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Im not looking forward to living in a flat (im moving to one next month :/)


In my old student house (end of terrace, my room next to a little girls in the other house) I played guitar loudly till around midnight... I always had loud music as well, they never complained or mentioned any noise.

One day they knocked on my door, to ask if they mind their little girl to bounce a ball against our wall on the other side lol... they were real polite.
 
All I can say is.

Just wait until you both have young children (and anything remotely noisy wakes them up at during their afternoon nap or from 1-6am) - Then you really will get annoyed with noise.

As a side point, does the guy have any kids. It's just something you might want to consider. As was stated, take turn your stereo onto your usual setting and ask to place it in the same location in his flat, then listen to how load it is in yours. You will then get an idea of how annoying you are to him.
 
benneh said:
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Seriously, it might sound daft and yes moving is an extreme solution so the obvious answer is to invest in a high quality set of headphones. You cant really have a decent sound system in that environment without annoying everyone else.

You wouldnt buy a third floor flat if you were a really keen gardener so the concept of picking somewhere to live that fits your lifestyle isn't that far fetched.
 
divosuk said:
All I can say is.

Just wait until you both have young children (and anything remotely noisy wakes them up at during their afternoon nap or from 1-6am) - Then you really will get annoyed with noise.

As a side point, does the guy have any kids. It's just something you might want to consider. As was stated, take turn your stereo onto your usual setting and ask to place it in the same location in his flat, then listen to how load it is in yours. You will then get an idea of how annoying you are to him.
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While I am one of the quietest people you could hope to live near (wear headphones most of the time and im out for most of the day) and I can sympathise with young parents who are trapped with either middle terraces or flats, you just have to expect some noise in that type of environment. ideally i suppose this kind of living space simply isnt suited to having vey young kids.

Flats especially, you are surrounded by at least 3 other abodes, possible 4 if your not ground or top floor, its inevitable that at least one of them is going to be oblivous to the fact that seperating walls between flats are not in fact the worlds best sound insulator, rather they are often the worst...

Noise at appropriate times of the day in a large communal living setting such as a block of flats simply has to be tolerated. Ceiling shaking dance at 6:45 on a Sunday morning however :mad: I found out which one it was, I assume they were out all last night and came back in hammered. The music stopped at 10, so i think i'll give them a good few hours to really drop off to sleep before I go banging on their door :)
 
Subs can be a little loud but your neighbour is being a **** so I suggest you turn it up and when he bangs on your wall, bang back twice as hard.
Also, take up drums.

Thats why I love being in a semi detatched house and the attached side plays drums too so we get on.
 
manic_man said:
. The music stopped at 10, so i think i'll give them a good few hours to really drop off to sleep before I go banging on their door :)
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What you wanna do is find out what times they go to bed then play your music really loud or start doing some DIY !
I live in a semi and don't go to bed until 5 or 6am my neighbors go to bed at 11pm ,if I'm a bit loud at night they make sure that they are loud early in the morning and visa versa !
I don't get on with my neighbors but we have an understanding and it works well :D
 
Good relations with your neighbours are a valuable thing; you can help each other out when the need arises and it's always a good point when selling.

As stated earlier, put your music/TV on at what you feel is a reasonable level and ask to go and listen at your neighbour's place; you will hear if there is a real problem and it will show the neighbour that you want to work this thing out.

If it truly is disturbing, go the headphone route; if not, you at least tried to compromise.

As for the car thing, I'm with him I'm afraid; if there are marked spaces within a reasonable distance, use them; how blinking wet can you get running from the parking spot to the door?

Whatever you do, don't get into the agressive mind set that some of the keyboard warriors are advocating.

Good luck.
 
shh with all the 'turn it up louder' 'who cares' 'hes a numpty' comments really.
The neighbour has a point - its not about what you deem acceptable.
I live in a downstairs flat and DAMN the people upstairs are loud, its just the footsteps, stomp stomp bloody stomp. It should be the law for upstairs flats to have carpets!
We came in the other night at 3am and were talking quietly in my room and someone had the cheek to bang on the floor, but they'll have a party till 4am and generally run around banging about screaming till all hours at random. Id try talking to them, but they are bloody french.

Best off talking to the neighbour and asking if he minds if you go into his living room to see what you can hear, that way you can come up with a decent configuration of volume/bass for your HiFi! Agree one for day/night, and if you have guests warn him.. hell invite him(sounds like he probably wont turn up though).
The note on the car was probably him just trying to be immature and annoying, because you confronted him he may see you as a threat.
 
If my neighbour was like that I wouldn't want to be freinds.
The neighbour has a point - its not about what you deem acceptable.
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I don't give a damn what anyone else deems acceptable or normal, people have so many preconceptions that I should be happy with a suburban life, mowing my lawn, washing my car, having kids and becoming a boring parent. **** that, it's boring, it's a nightmare. So when I come back from the pub at 2 in the morning drunk and probably on drugs, i'm said to be "an idiot" or "an alcoholic" because I have fun. being mates with ******* neighbours is stupid.

And if I was in your situation I wouldn't give in to his stupidity, i've had enough noise complaints when I was younger learning to play drums, but most lawnmowers are louder and man they mowed their lawns a lot my neighbours, so who's the bad guy there, them.
 
pitchfork thats such a selfish kind of thing.
Im fairly sure time spent playing the drums is longer than mowing a lawn, and im fairly sure a bass drum is more annoying to most people than the odd lawnmower.
Fair do's some neighbours are miserable old buggers and get righteous about people who enjoy nights out and getting drunk, mine at home are like that to be honest, but I just dont let it bother me.
Me going out getting drunk and coming home doesnt affect anyone, the OPs music does(as far as we know). How would you like it if you had a neighbour that just played bass'y music all day long really loud? Not saying that the OP does, but im fairly sure you wouldnt deem it acceptable.
 
After reading this thread I don't want to EVER move out. :eek:
I'm kinda glad I'm surrounded by 500 acres and the nearest house is the Family farmhouse about 200 metres away.
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Living in flats is like living in one big house which you all share, you're not independent even if you want to pretend to be. And there's nothing more annoying than someone else's music when you're trying to concentrate on something else... or just relax in your own, quieter way.

Other, more random noise is easier to tolerate (unless it's at 2am, or you live next to a rampant door-banger), but the regular beat of someone else's bass can be very stressful. That's why the police spend far too much time sorting out noisy neighbour disputes.

http://www.housefund.co.uk/2007/11/noisy-neighbours-cause-most-disputes.html

I use these Sennheiser wireless headphones...
http://www.electronics-online.co.uk/acatalog/Sennheiser_RS_130__Headphones.html
They're superb. Very comfortable, good audio quality, and the AAA batteries last hours between charges, unlike earlier versions. They mean I can listen to whatever I want, as loud as I want, whenever I want. I heartily recommend them.

Andrew McP
 
nokinidea said:
After reading this thread I don't want to EVER move out. :eek:
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When I was buying my flat, the first solicitor I contacted to handle the paperwork said words to the effect of: "I don't work for people buying flats because nobody in their right mind should ever buy one. If you can't afford a house, carry on renting and save hard until you *can* afford it. This is the best bit of free advice anyone will ever give you."

And you know what? He was absolutely right. :-) The only saving grace for me was that I bought in '95 when flats were cheaper to buy than rent.... which is the only sensible reason to buy one (unless you can find a place with 2' thick concrete walls & floors!)

Andrew McP
 
To all those people that have said that Im being inconsiderate. Firstly, i come from a very quiet house hold, i've not changed one bit, I am still quiet! My music is NOT loud at all, I used to have the Bass on normal at home, as soon as i moved out, it was put to minimum. I don't play anything loud after 10PM even on a weekend and to be honest i like to keep myself to myself.

Suprise suprise, i've not had any knocks or bangs for the past week since i went round to speak to him! I think he's jsut being a numpty!

Would it help if I put a piece of Old Carpet under my sub. To the poster who asked (sorry, can't remember your name) yes, it is on wooden flooring. Would the carpet help?!

Greg
 
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