Hello neocon, still illegal none the less though. However, personally I think it is still effectively theft. I honestly can't see what else it can be?
it's closer to forgery.
Have you ever pirated anything?
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it's closer to forgery.
Good Idea. Lol the reason you made me slightly angry is that I work for an ISP and I have an idea what the prfit margins are per customer and trust me it isn't that great, but it really does get rather complex if I try to explain why it costs what it does so I will leave it for another thread.
For the people on high horses saying that theft is theft. I agree to an extent but the way the music industry has monopolised the market makes me not care.
Music companies take such a large % of total profits it is unreal and all they do is hold the key to the doors, I suspect if I was talented and wanted to make some music and sell it it would be very hard to say get my record in HMV, get an interview on GMTV, get an advert on MTV without going through them. That is all I am saying, they don't deserve the money imo. You have to then decide if you want to follow the law blindly or use your own morals to guide you through life.
ok then maybe i was wrong to 'go there' then but i still think i have a good point i made eirlier about the film company's comparing downloading to other more serious 'theft' crimes were people get money physically taken away from them and in some cases become injured as a result
but i still think i have a good point i made eirlier about the film company's comparing downloading to other more serious 'theft' crimes were people get money physically taken away from them and in some cases become injured as a resultbtw does anyone know what the punishments for each level of priracy 'if caught' is???
eg...
people who download for personnel use only, and buy if they like it
people who download for personnel use only.
people who download for personnel use and sell a few to there mates.
Full on business selling pirated stuff
and is there different punishments dependings on what has been pirated i.e music/games/movies/software
eg...
people who download for personnel use only, and buy if they like it
people who download for personnel use only.
people who download for personnel use and sell a few to there mates.
Full on business selling pirated stuff
and is there different punishments dependings on what has been pirated i.e music/games/movies/software
btw does anyone know what the punishments for each level of priracy 'if caught' is???
eg...
people who download for personnel use only, and buy if they like it
people who download for personnel use only.
people who download for personnel use and sell a few to there mates.
Full on business selling pirated stuff
and is there different punishments dependings on what has been pirated i.e music/games/movies/software
dont think theres a difference between the first two
jostified imo
if ppl came in your house and robbed stuff from you then you would want justice
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I disagree with that, and so does the british legal system. In the UK you don't have punative fines. You only can get ordered to pay for compensation and legal fees.
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they also tried to sue a Russian site for several trillion dollars.
also some rather worrying things that came from the case
so you could break into someones house dl a bunch of torrents you know are watched and tracked then completely screw over that person.
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whats the legal position on this?
my ISP hosts a news server were people upload many GB's worth of illegal stuff for others to download, are the ISP not an 'accessory to crime' how come they havnt been ordered to shut down this news server??
also, off topic, only people who are on this ISP can access the server but all connection they offer have really slow upload speeds so how do people uplaod so much in such short spaces of time???
my ISP hosts a news server were people upload many GB's worth of illegal stuff for others to download, are the ISP not an 'accessory to crime' how come they havnt been ordered to shut down this news server??
also, off topic, only people who are on this ISP can access the server but all connection they offer have really slow upload speeds so how do people uplaod so much in such short spaces of time???
copying isnt depriving an owner of their property though, unlike physically stealing a dvd from hmv would be
the isp's in the uk havent even agreed to hand over info on who is dlding illegally as i understand, they are in talks though
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