I'm hoping to borrow bioshock and assasins creed as they look good but with time being short I just want to race through them. Mass Effect I bought as I knew I would replay it lots. At no point would I consider pirating 360 games now though!
Pirate games, anyone feel the same?
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best pirate game = overboard, only had the demo on the PS1, played it all the time though
and yes I do realise the thread is about actual copied games
and yes I do realise the thread is about actual copied games
Surely borrowing is technically no better though?
None of the developers or those involved with Bioshock/Assasin's Creed will get any of your money, yet you'll get to play through their games as much as you'd like. Isn't that just the same as pirating?
The same could apply to buying second hand really (and I remember a debate over it not that long ago on here). I'd have to agree with SiD. People seem to horribly up-in-arms over downloading games over the net, but will look the other way when various other methods are used.
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We should keep this to the topic and not turn it into a 'piracy, good or bad' thread.
Piracy is illegal.
Swapping a game with a friend so they get to play something they wouldn't have played and you do isn't.
End of.
Yeah I agree, I think its the same with movies too.
I also find this to be true but I think that comes down to how much I want a specific game. Burnout for example I had to have, most games I won't pay more than £25 for. I knew I wanted it and now its the only game I have any intention of playing tonight. COD4 on the other hand I would like to get but I'm waiting until I see it cheap therefore no matter how good it might be I haven't got that excitement already there.
I assume you just read the thread title, and skipped the actual post?
No no, I did actually read the OP, take it in and divulge the info.
I just went off on a tangent down memory lane.
There is nothing like marrying a rich French aristocrat's daughter, then taking over their home town and looting all the valuables, then recruiting all of their saloirs in the tavern for one of your crap ships which will just get bombed!
Have that frenchies!
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Borrowing/copying. Its a bit like prostitution. You can go with a prostitute and thats illegal, or you can meet someone at a club and have sex, and thats legal.
At the end of the day, someone always gets screwed.
At the end of the day, someone always gets screwed.
technically swapping a game is illegal.
No it isn't the sodding "end of", and just adding that to the end of your post doesn't make it so. And I'm also fairly sure that lending CDs/DVDs/Games is against the copyright, and so technically just as illegal as downloading. It's just that it's far harder to police, and not considered as "big" a crime.
If you're borrowing a game of a friend, or buying it second hand, you're basically getting to play a game without those who made it getting any fair recompense for it. Regardless of legality, the effect is essentially the same.
I'm not condoning piracy. I've had arguments with some of my friends over their love of downloading absolutely anything they can for free. Whil I'm not claiming to be whiter than white, I still far prefer to buy the majority of games I play, because I appreciate that the people who made it need to get paid somehow. but equally, I don't go out and buy second-hand games for the same reason.
Why not? We're hardly straying wildly off topic.
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It borrowing was illegal then people wouldnt be allowed to hire them. I know in the past when SNES and megadrive were the norm, that the manufacturers charged rental shops to allow them to hire stuff, but that was scrapped.
From The UK Copyright service site:
According to copyright law, it's technically only completely legal to lend something if you're a library.
Now of course, resale is allowed because the aforementioned "consent of the owner" is implicit. Mainly because it would be silly and unworkable to force people to keep everything they bought, but also partly because that's just the way things are done.
This is a pointless side-track anyway. I'm not arguing whether lending is illegal. My point is that lending is morally no better than downloading, if you're going to play the "I like the original artists to get paid" card.
So? That first person buying the game will still have done so, regardless of whether you rent, borrow, buy second hand, download, or materialise from the ether.
What's VAT got to do with anything? That's not the cut that the manufacturers get.
But anyway, I get your point and no, they don't, and nobody seems to get up in arms about that, do they?
Also, why do you think new cars cost so much?
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I totally agree, on my original xbox I have over 200 games, and I have probably played a handful more than once.
Got 10 on my 360 and I am enjoying them much more.
Got 10 on my 360 and I am enjoying them much more.
its probably because if you think a game looks "ok" then you wont buy it, but if you decide to pirate it then you will most definitely get the games that look "ok" because its free, and end up not really playing it but have it anyway...
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Agreed. I don't pirate or rent games but I find if I buy too many at once I jump between them not really concentrating on one specifically. I can't say if its because I have too many or if the games aren't good enough because when I got Mario Galaxy I dropped everything and the same has happened with Burnout.