Spectacular failure!
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Are you absolutely sure about that? I was under the impression that was only for faults considered 'unsafe', otherwise it totally defeats the point of getting the MOT done early and getting the '13 month' MOT.
Well, the first time I noticed the leak, I had the car jacked up at the front after just filling it up with fuel.
It was dripping onto the exhaust (
) which thankfully, was cool.The leak wasn't massive... i.e. if you had fuel in the tank, it wouldn't be emitting vapour. In fact, the welding I talked about earlier in the thread was carried out with the leaky tank fitted.
If I was in any doubt that it would have exploded, I sure as hell wouldn't have got under the car with a grinder. The only reason the guy could tell the tank was leaking, was IMO, because of a bit of underseal on the back of the tank that looked like it had eroded away.
[TW]Fox;11138006 said:
Yep I'm sure mate i've got 30 years in the trade & 27 of them an MOT tester, Read the back of the fail cert
(Not that anyone does that
) , Once a fail is issued the only LEGAL journey you can make is to or from a test centre OR to or from a place of repair but you are NOT exempt from prosicution & you insurance may be void.As said it's all in the waffle on the back (but nobody ever reads it
)pfft my mondeo only failed on ball joints that i knew were going (in fact i took it in to have them done and said throw it through the mot whilst you're at it)
It even passed it's emissions and it's decatted!
but i bet yours is a lot less than 14 years old tho
As said it's all in the waffle on the back (but nobody ever reads it
What it actually says is:
"This document tells you that your vehicle has not been shown to meet the minimum legal requirements for the reason(s) detailed in section A. If you intend to use your vehicle on the road you should have it repaired and retested before the existing test validity expires"
Which would seem to indicate that you can still use it up to the point that the existing test becomes invalid, it doesn't say anywhere that a refusal of a certificate voids the existing one.
Edit: I only have a VT30 because I forgot to clip some PAS pipes to the bottom of the engine after changing it.
Edit 2: Also covered on this page Link
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Yep I'm sure mate i've got 30 years in the trade & 27 of them an MOT tester, Read the back of the fail cert
As said it's all in the waffle on the back (but nobody ever reads it
Your 30 years in the trade seems to disagree with what VOSA have to say on the matter
VOSA said:
Linky to source http://www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/
Which was always my understanding of the situation.
Back on topic that failure is not even close to epic, epic is when you look at the list and don't even know where to start, I once took in a classic mini that we expected to fail but only minorly and it came out with litterally dozens of faults including a few that were flagged as dangerous, after some serious sole searching the car went to mini heaven and we got another to play with as it was cheaper!
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Actually, I read:
As: Ordinarily, a certificate is valid until it expires on a certain date. If you get you car tested before then and it fails and you do not rectify the defects (immediately?) then you are driving an unroadworthy vehicle (regardless of when the expiry date is?).
I don't read that little VOSA paragraph as saying if your car fails, it's okay to continue using it up until the expiry date, at which point you should get it fixed.
In fact, looking at the next paragraphs on the page make it a lot clearer:
So if you fail an MOT before the expiry date, but fix the issues, your car is then legal again, up until the original expiry date.
VOSA said:
As: Ordinarily, a certificate is valid until it expires on a certain date. If you get you car tested before then and it fails and you do not rectify the defects (immediately?) then you are driving an unroadworthy vehicle (regardless of when the expiry date is?).
I don't read that little VOSA paragraph as saying if your car fails, it's okay to continue using it up until the expiry date, at which point you should get it fixed.
In fact, looking at the next paragraphs on the page make it a lot clearer:
VOSA said:
So if you fail an MOT before the expiry date, but fix the issues, your car is then legal again, up until the original expiry date.
I don't remember saying it did, what I was merely trying to prove was that your not imediately restricted to only driving back and forth to the MOT centre to get a new MOT, your current certificate is not invalid as was inplied. You are merely driving around in an un-raodworthy car which you were anyway the only difference is you now know it. The earlier implication was that your MOT certificate was invalid and you needed a new one imediately to continue driving this is obviously not true.
eh ?
that quote you've posted says exactly what marshy says, that once you're car is failed for its MOT, it becomes un roadworthy. Its an offence to drive an unroadworthy vehicle so you cant drive it again untill the defects are corrected
in what way does that link disagree with marshy ?
which is an offence
which means you cant do it. Thats what a offence is, doing something thats against the law.
Read my post again Si.
I said it doesn't leak while I'm driving along. Even I'm not stupid enough to drive around leaving a trail of fuel behind me.
The tank leaked from the top, so when I filled it up, that's when it started leaking.
Upto £35 of fuel, it would be ok.
Oh, and it's been 6 months
Interesting read about the conditions of the fail sheet. I'll have to do a bit of research on that.
unlucky AGW, it's not nice when they start smacking the sill with a hammer and lots of bit comes off is it
haha. First thing that went through my mind was... "********, they've foiled my secret plan!"
Fuel tank is getting changed tomorrow, I know what's causing the handbrake efficiency (it's just too cold to go out and fix it) and I've got a mate doing the welding for me on Friday.
Depending what time we get finished, I should be able to get it in for its re-test on Friday. And then tax it
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