Beans Advert Pulled.

The add should have been pulled, they were correct to do so.

Homosexuality (both female and male) needs to be eradicated from society.

It is detrimental to the human species as a whole, in multiple ways.

A population is the sum of the individuals contained there in, Diversity adds depth, however something which is fundamentally restrictive of progression serves only to diminish that total sum.

Exactly in the same manner as hate, greed, theft, covertousness, aggression, deceit, etc.

Homosexuality is nothing more than a similar impulse that can be invested into by a "darker" nature - regardless of how subtly, or desensitized any person or group may become to it.

That is my opinion on this topic.

I am not a homophobe, i view it simply as another flaw in human society, just as i have flaws of my own - as will each of you whom read this.

I will probably get flamed, but i hope someone, even if they are interested in the opposite sex, can respect that that is my views, just as you would wish me to respect yours.

-yes i did find the advert slightly amusing, in a somewhat uncomfortable fassion.
 
Tefal said:
Heart attacks can be found in many species too :
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Yes, and heart attacks are also considered normal (i.e. common) and they also do impede your ability to lead a healthy life. I don't believe there's a comparison.

Tefal said:
It is not normal function because if it where to be "normal" ie majority of population exhibit the behavior, then that population would die out/decrease massively.
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Your assuming again that someone who is gay just won't have children! The two things are completely separate. Do you really think a gay man has never fathered a child?

Tefal said:
abnormal in this context does not mean a bit unusual it means it is detrimental to the organisms continued survival, and reproduction.
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Again I would say the two things are separate. If human or any other animal wants to reproduce they have the ability to do so whether they are hetro/homosexual.

Tefal said:
So gay animals can receive donor sperm?

Outside influence of technology does not change the condition.
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People can donate sperm without technology you know, one way is often referred to as sex.

Tefal said:
But that would not be correct not being Christian does not impair your ability to function or reproduce.
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Yes that's the way most people would look at it (including me). But it doesn't stop a load of people from thinking that it would completely impair you ability to lead a proper life/continue life in heaven. So if they go by your definition then they would consider non-believers to be ill/sick.
 
Tefal said:
Want to back that up?

You know the most genetically complex organism on the planet is a fern with over 13000 chromosomes compared to your 48.
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I did not know that, but it does not surprise me.

But you cannot deny that our increased mental activity, social structures and individual personalities make us more intricate than each member in a colony of ants.

Most creatures, be they mammals, birds, insects, whatever, have limited to no emotion. We're full of that crap.

So our 'normal' is no where near as defined as most other living things.
 
Tefal said:
You can't believe a thread on homosexual content in an advertisement turned into a thread discussing homosexuality?
No offense but are you mentally challenged?
If we stopped discussing things when they got offensive to some we'd never progress.
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The thread was about an advert that could be interpreted as having gay content being pulled, not about homosexuality in society, or if its a disease or a defect or any of the other rubbish thats going on in this thread.

And what progress do you think is made by discussing things on internet forums? Jesus.
 
yak.h'cir said:
Yes, and heart attacks are also considered normal (i.e. common) and they also do impede your ability to lead a healthy life. I don't believe there's a comparison.
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*smashes head into desk*


Again I would say the two things are separate. If human or any other animal wants to reproduce they have the ability to do so whether they are hetro/homosexual.
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Animals do not "want" nor have the ability to think like that, if they are gay the physical see their own sex as mates and so wont mate with opposite sexes.

People can donate sperm without technology you know, one way is often referred to as sex.
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Yes but why would a gay man have sex with a woman without concius dessicion, and vis versa, a gay animal would not, which means that it is only a humans sentience which allows them to carry on. and thus doesn't affect he condition.


. So if they go by your definition then they would consider non-believers to be ill/sick.
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Tell me how exactly religious belief's affects biological function of an organism?
 
Tefal said:
surely though a genetic defect counts as an illness:confused:
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What, so people that are born with genetic defects externally are classed an handicap but any internal genetic defects are classed as an illness ?

A genetic defeat is what is it, a genetic defect, look it up.

EDIT - I've been doing a bit more reading and I think the term 'Genetic Disorder' is the closest we're gonna get.
 
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krooton said:
I did not know that, but it does not surprise me.
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Yeah the quanity of chromosomes etc is influenced by the age of the species and how much crap they pick up through random mutation over the millenia, most of the stuff in the ferns does nothing, just like a lot of human DNA does nothing, or at least we don't understand what it does.

But you cannot deny that our increased mental activity, social structures and individual personalities make us more intricate than each member in a colony of ants.

Most creatures, be they mammals, birds, insects, whatever, have limited to no emotion. We're full of that crap.
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Makes your actions harder to predict but no harder to examine on a physical basis.


So our 'normal' is no where near as defined as most other living things.
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physically it is, it's just we notice the variation more as we are familiar with it.

For example people fin it hard to distinguish facial differences in races they have not encountered much. yet can clearly see them in their own.
 
lowrider007 said:
What, so people that are born with genetic defects externally are classed an handicap but any internal genetic defects are classed as an illness ?

A genetic defeat is what is it, a genetic defeat, look it up.

EDIT - I've been doing a bit more reading and I think the term 'Genetic Disorder' is the closest we're gonna get.
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sickle cell anemia is called an illness but it is a genetic defect :/

Also what is an "internal" genetic defect?
 
For once I've not read all the thread but I don't think the advert should have been pulled, it seemed like a humourous little sketch rather than the downfall of civilisation as we know it so I don't have a problem with it.
 
Tefal said:
For example people fin it hard to distinguish facial differences in races they have not encountered much. yet can clearly see them in their own.
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True.

Keep in mind, I completely see your point, I just think it is an unnecessary term with no real benefit, especially if, as accurate as it may be scientifically, all it is likely to do is upset people.
 
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