Smoking should be BANNED!

tripitaka · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:45

peterattheboro said:
I drive, I don't think driving should be banned. I don't go sucking on exhaust fumes so I have no qualms with that.

I would imagine that walking down an average street you would inhale far more exhaust fumes than you would cigarette smoke.

C64 · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:48

driving should be banned I cant stand breathing in all that exhaust pollution.

Sheff · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:52

uvmain said:
• On average 3,000 people are killed or seriously injured each year in drink drive collisions.
http://www.drinkdrivingfacts.com/drinkdriving/drink_driving_facts.aspx

•3000 nonsmokers die every year from lung cancer caused by ETS
http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/secondhandsmoke/a/secondhandsmoke.htm

Whilst the numbers are even, that's just drink drivers. It's not including people who have been attacked in alcohol related violence, property that has been damaged in alcohol related debauchery, or anything else.

I drink, and I smoke, but I don't believe you can condone one without condoning the other.

The second link is based on US facts while the first is information from the UK, which would suggest the number on average is much smaller in the UK for second hand smokers.

I drink occasionally and smoke very occasionally (usually when I've been drinking) but I think neither are admirable habits.

^JP^ · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:54

With cigarettes really just being a dispenser for nicotine so people can feed their addiction.
Why cant they develope a smoke free dispenser but keep the amonia and freebase nicotine as some sort rechargeable inhaler device (Tom Cruise - Minority Report).

Would solve the smoke problem at least...

LordSplodge · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:55

gareth.e said:
Nope it's not. It might as well be someone smearing faeces in our faces.. Which is why we want it changed so it is illegal.

Another flawed argument.

Comparing smoking to somebody rubbing faeces in your face has to be the most bizzare analogy I have ever heard.

Smoking in the streets has a negligible affect on you even if you are close to them and if you are worried about the health implications or smell/taste then use your choice and move away.

Pilky01 · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:55

Driving serves a useful purpose, smoking doesnt.

uv · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:58

Pilky01 said:
Driving serves a useful purpose, smoking doesnt.

Hitler thought there was a purpose to killing non-Arians , doesn't mean he was right to do so.

Pilky01 · 5 Nov 2008 at 14:59

uvmain said:
Hitler thought there was a purpose to killing non-Arians , doesn't mean he was right to do so.

I fail to see your point.

^JP^ · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:00

There really is no defence for why smoking should not be banned.

Compare it to other 'bad' things as much as you like. Doesn't really justify it.

Pixel · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:02

There really is no defence for why alcohol should not be banned.

^JP^ · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:03

Pixel said:
There really is no defence for why alcohol should not be banned.

I agree.

Toker · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:05

Pixel said:
There really is no defence for why alcohol should not be banned.

because the people in this thread trying to ban smoking like alcohol

peterattheboro · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:06

Toker said:
because the people in this thread trying to ban smoking like alcohol

True.

person · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:08

I hate smokeing and more to the point the disgusting smell it gives off ! .. its unbelievable how quickly it gets into your clothes/hair and then you can't get rid of it

. Ban it indefinately.

Emlyn_Dewar · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:12

anticonscience said:
Where will the extra government revenue come from though?

I'll read through the rest of this thread later but this^ echoes my initial thoughts.

A brief glimpse through this page alone gets a large scale "lol".
Ban smoking because we don't like it and it smells bad. Great justification!

(Non-smoker, happy with the revenue it brings in to the UK though.)

peterattheboro · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:13

Emlyn_Dewar said:
I'll read through the rest of this thread later but this^ echoes my initial thoughts.

From the reduction of the NHS bill because there wont be that many people dying of lung cancer in hospitals.

Emlyn_Dewar · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:15

peterattheboro said:
From the reduction of the NHS bill because there wont be that many people dying of lung cancer in hospitals.

I'm sure we've been through this before on the forums and the cost to the NHS was far less than the money brought in.

Emlyn_Dewar · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:17

peterattheboro said:
Again. What you eat isn't going to affect the person next to you. Unless your really obese and are on a plane in economy. Then it's just a nuisance.

I personally find fat people gorging Mcdonalds, etc, hideous and disgusting. They also take up more room in lines, restaurants and weigh far more than I do on flights.
They should be banned or taxed more.

Pilky01 · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:18

Emlyn_Dewar said:
I personally find fat people gorging Mcdonalds, etc, hideous and disgusting. They also take up more room in lines, restaurants and weigh far more than I do on flights.
They should be banned or taxed more.

None of them things are affecting your health.

peterattheboro · 5 Nov 2008 at 15:19

Emlyn_Dewar said:
I personally find fat people gorging Mcdonalds, etc, hideous and disgusting. They also take up more room in lines, restaurants and weigh far more than I do on flights.
They should be banned or taxed more.

I agree but that's a rant for another day