Lack of people wearing Poppies is a disgrace .

Von Smallhausen said:
I must be terrribly old fashioned then when I show respect for people whose lives were turned upside down. suffered injury, lost their lives, watched friends and comrades blown apart and sacrificed so much.

Never has a truer word been spoken in that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
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Robosapien said:
Being a soldier is a job, they provide a service.
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No, being a soldier is a way of life that not everyone could handle. Without them your liberty would probably be nonexistant.

Robosapien said:
Hookers addicted to crack often have tragic lives born out of desperation too - should I show them respect?
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Respect? No, not in the least bit.

Doesn't compare in the slightest though, so that is a moot point.
 
Gilly said:
No, being a soldier is a way of life that not everyone could handle. Without them your liberty would probably be nonexistant.
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And IT is an industry that isn't everyone's cup of tea either. Without IT you would have no logistics, no intelligence, no modern vehicules...

Nearly each and every profession has its' sacrifices - throwing your life away is not the only sacrifice - a living sacrifice is pretty hard too. For some who haven't had the opportunities in life, the army is an excellent way to develop yourself - great training, good discipline, reasonable pay etc. People know *exactly* what they are getting themselves in for when they join.

If you want to argue particular horrors, then do it - there were plenty of software engineers jumping out of the windows of the WTC when those two planes hit - but don't parade the profession as though its a holy grail for all to worship.
 
WatchTower said:
Again this year I'm lucky if I see anyone wearing a Poppy. Apart from the odd elderly person. I've always bought a Poppy every year for years now. To think people have fought and died for us many years ago and people today fighting Afghanistan and Iraq. It makes me so angry the lack of respect shown it makes me want to punching something.

Sorry about the rant I just think anyone that hasn't put any money in the box are a disgraceful and should be ashamed of themselves.
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Franky I believe that distilling the efforts and sacrifices of an entire generation into a nice easy-to-swallow one-day-only-affair is just as much an affront to their memories as not wearing one at all.

If it makes you feel any better I'm sure sticking a mock flower on your jacket one day a year makes you a far better person than the rest of us.
 
Durzel said:
Franky I believe that distilling the efforts and sacrifices of an entire generation into a nice easy-to-swallow one-day-only-affair is just as much an affront to their memories as not wearing one at all.

If it makes you feel any better I'm sure sticking a mock flower on your jacket one day a year makes you a far better person than the rest of us.
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Well, I don't know, one day a year in the public eye to make sure history never repeats itself is probably enough...And you'd assume that those who gave their lives would want us to make the most of what they've given us and not live life in constant mourning (which is unrealistic anyway).

It's all in vein anyway since we still go to war, still have poor young lads dying for some rich ****'s liberties who also puts on a front and 'pays respects' like everyone else.
 
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As I quote below from earlier, this just isn't about the charity :

That's the point isn't it? It's not just about the charity. The poppy appeal, although it does raise money, is a means of bringing awareness and understanding about what went on during the two world wars. Fortunately, very few of us here had to go through the torment and sacrifice that people made during these real hard times. It’s a small token to give thanks, gratitude and respect to those who gave their lives so we could live as freely as we do today.
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I would wear one if my college had them for sale, but i dont know any place local to me that sells one. They should be available more wide spread. I used to always buy one when i was in school as people used to go around selling them.

was quite shocked when i heard that the memorial plaque's were stolen most likely to be converted into scrap metal, a lot of people have no sympathy at all.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Ah, shame as his comment was one of those double edged ones and I would have been interested in his meaning.
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My point was that it is not clear where the line is between glorification and 'respect'. We have such reverence for those that died for our country that it is easy to confuse the two - it becomes somehow noble and dignified to die for your country or to sacrifice your life, I think there's a real danger of that sort of 'hidden message' lurking underneath the main point - that war shouldn't happen, period, and anything to do with it should be avoided completely and utterly.

Yet mugs still choose to cheapen their lives and join up to invade Iraq.
 
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Travel, adventurous training, qualifications, experience etc.

Main reason at the time was money, but it will set me up for a good job when I leave.
 
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