Grand Theft Auto 4

[TW]Fox;13019062 said:
I just want MP :(

If I load the game with Social Club signed in it crashes with the MM10 error. If I logout of social club it loads fine but wont let me play MP.
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apparently you can sign back into in one of the safehouses and it wil work.
 
paradigm said:
To be fair, you can't blame Rock* for not designing and bundling their software to work on server and business (Business N) class operating systems.

You stated that you made sure that you didn't have that "WMP crap" installed. a) its not crap, and b) you could enable it (I know this, as my 2nd server is S2008ent).
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"In the European Union, Home Basic N and Business N versions are also available."

There is Home Basic N, there is also in South Korea there are the KN editions without WMP.

The fact is, it is bad practice to require people to have a certain library and not distribute it on the disk with the application.
 
paradigm said:
No it isn't. The new retarded panning of the camera (where it takes half an hour to follow the car around a corner) means that for the first half of any street, you can't see where the **** you are going.

And the controls when walking feel like the drunk driving missions in GTA:VC, completely disjointed from feeling.
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The walking is influenced greatly by the fact that skeletons are "controlled" by Euphoria...its brilliant. There's nothing more entertaining than crashing into somebody at a super slow speed to watch them try and keep themselves on their feet. :D

Its also brilliant shooting people in different parts of the body to see them and their skeleton acting in a variety of manners - tripping somebody up by shooting their heel as they sprint away from you is awesome. Euphoria ***.
 
Faffing Kerfuffle

Install process must be the longest ever to set up a PC game...

> Half an hour to install data from two DVD's.

Next step the DRM date authorisation, this only worked after I temporarily disabled the Windows Firewall.

Next you have to faff about with the GTA Social Club. Why do I need to join a social club to play a game offline? Anyhow fill out the forms and submit, then have to wait for the email then hit the weblink to complete registration.

At this point about an hour in so went off for tea. When I restarted PC, the installer embeds the "Social Club" launcher in the startup run and actually opens the log-in screen on the desktop - I think I've now disabled this feature but it's a bit presumptous and intrusive that running GTA is the first thing I want to do on starting the PC.

Anyhow, even if I wanted the wretched Social Club, I couldn't actually log in even after activating my membership.

And so to start the game...next prompt is that I need the latest version of Windows Live installed before it will run - even though I couldn't give two hoots about using the feature. Another 30Mb download and install routine to go through...

So finally...get to run the game. First impressions then, actually not too bad. Running at 1680 x 1050 at the preset medium settings the opening missions seemed smooth enough, just the odd pause for loading though of course the PS3 seemed to have this and lagged when there was significant action such as police chases. Even at medium, graphics seem sharper and deeper than the PS3 version.

The key commands may need some customisation as I normally prefer to use the arrow keys for movement rather than wasd. Unfortunately, the Up cursor is linked to the mobile phone so I'm going to need to think about assignments a bit. Controls seem a bit sluggish - using W and the mouse to steer Niko he was not turning very quickly. Similarly when driving, while I know the game features revised physics but using the XBox 360 controller I was swinging wide when cornering even at moderate speeds. Again, more exagerrated than the PS3 version.

Overall, once the nightmare install was out the way and Social Club suppressed on startup I'm not displeased with the PC version. I'll be keeping it and playing it, just think that Rockstar have goofed up a bit with some of the port and implementation.
 
Vern1961 said:
Install process must be the longest ever to set up a PC game...

> Half an hour to install data from two DVD's.

Next step the DRM date authorisation, this only worked after I temporarily disabled the Windows Firewall.

Next you have to faff about with the GTA Social Club. Why do I need to join a social club to play a game offline? Anyhow fill out the forms and submit, then have to wait for the email then hit the weblink to complete registration.

At this point about an hour in so went off for tea. When I restarted PC, the installer embeds the "Social Club" launcher in the startup run and actually opens the log-in screen on the desktop - I think I've now disabled this feature but it's a bit presumptous and intrusive that running GTA is the first thing I want to do on starting the PC.

Anyhow, even if I wanted the wretched Social Club, I couldn't actually log in even after activating my membership.

And so to start the game...next prompt is that I need the latest version of Windows Live installed before it will run - even though I couldn't give two hoots about using the feature. Another 30Mb download and install routine to go through...

So finally...get to run the game. First impressions then, actually not too bad. Running at 1680 x 1050 at the preset medium settings the opening missions seemed smooth enough, just the odd pause for loading though of course the PS3 seemed to have this and lagged when there was significant action such as police chases. Even at medium, graphics seem sharper and deeper than the PS3 version.

The key commands may need some customisation as I normally prefer to use the arrow keys for movement rather than wasd. Unfortunately, the Up cursor is linked to the mobile phone so I'm going to need to think about assignments a bit. Controls seem a bit sluggish - using W and the mouse to steer Niko he was not turning very quickly. Similarly when driving, while I know the game features revised physics but using the XBox 360 controller I was swinging wide when cornering even at moderate speeds. Again, more exagerrated than the PS3 version.

Overall, once the nightmare install was out the way and Social Club suppressed on startup I'm not displeased with the PC version. I'll be keeping it and playing it, just think that Rockstar have goofed up a bit with some of the port and implementation.
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That is a very good sum up of the process. I have done the first few missions. Only used the 360 controller so far as its been easier. Will see how it is with guns.

Used on the default settings so far - 1680x1050 & graphics settings top:medium bottom:high (cant remember the names). Am pretty happy so far. Not checked the FPS but seems smooth enough.:D
 
Surely medium on this game is like high for any other? Rockstar themselves said high is for future systems?

I'd just run it on medium and forget about it... :p
 
What the ****! Can I not save in this stupid game unless I am signed into Social Club?

I'm beginning to wish I hadn't bought this and had just downloaded a cracked copy as it probably wouldn't have had half the bull that this has!
 
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Winnter said:
rockstar are talking utter rubbish! That dame 280 should be able to run it super smooth!They have screwed the PC gamers!
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:confused::confused::confused:

The console version is the equivalent of "Low". "High" can take over a gig of VRAM . It's been done like that on purpose apparently.

If it does actually run ok on medium then I don't see what the fuss is about, Crysis got slammed for the same reason. People just see their PC can't run it on the highest settings (even though medium looks like the other games out there atm)

If it does actually run badly on medium on high specced PC's then obviously this isn't right.
 
Vern1961 said:
Install process must be the longest ever to set up a PC game...

> Half an hour to install data from two DVD's.

Next step the DRM date authorisation, this only worked after I temporarily disabled the Windows Firewall.

Next you have to faff about with the GTA Social Club. Why do I need to join a social club to play a game offline? Anyhow fill out the forms and submit, then have to wait for the email then hit the weblink to complete registration.

At this point about an hour in so went off for tea. When I restarted PC, the installer embeds the "Social Club" launcher in the startup run and actually opens the log-in screen on the desktop - I think I've now disabled this feature but it's a bit presumptous and intrusive that running GTA is the first thing I want to do on starting the PC.

Anyhow, even if I wanted the wretched Social Club, I couldn't actually log in even after activating my membership.

And so to start the game...next prompt is that I need the latest version of Windows Live installed before it will run - even though I couldn't give two hoots about using the feature. Another 30Mb download and install routine to go through...

So finally...get to run the game. First impressions then, actually not too bad. Running at 1680 x 1050 at the preset medium settings the opening missions seemed smooth enough, just the odd pause for loading though of course the PS3 seemed to have this and lagged when there was significant action such as police chases. Even at medium, graphics seem sharper and deeper than the PS3 version.

The key commands may need some customisation as I normally prefer to use the arrow keys for movement rather than wasd. Unfortunately, the Up cursor is linked to the mobile phone so I'm going to need to think about assignments a bit. Controls seem a bit sluggish - using W and the mouse to steer Niko he was not turning very quickly. Similarly when driving, while I know the game features revised physics but using the XBox 360 controller I was swinging wide when cornering even at moderate speeds. Again, more exagerrated than the PS3 version.

Overall, once the nightmare install was out the way and Social Club suppressed on startup I'm not displeased with the PC version. I'll be keeping it and playing it, just think that Rockstar have goofed up a bit with some of the port and implementation.
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I got a better one, my game just crashes when I try to run it (having installed WMP JUST to make it not bitch).

Strife212 said:
:confused::confused::confused:

The console version is the equivalent of "Low". "High" can take over a gig of VRAM . It's been done like that on purpose apparently.

If it does actually run ok on medium then I don't see what the fuss is about, Crysis got slammed for the same reason. People just see their PC can't run it on the highest settings (even though medium looks like the other games out there atm)

If it does actually run badly on medium on high specced PC's then obviously this isn't right.
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I bet you it would still run badle on the 2GB 4850s form PCS :)
 
just installed gta iv and getting this...

never had a problem with any other game, just changed the gfx drivers aswell to nvidia standard latest ones! running a 8800 gts 512

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any ideas?
 
Vern1961 said:
Overall, once the nightmare install was out the way and Social Club suppressed on startup I'm not displeased with the PC version. I'll be keeping it and playing it, just think that Rockstar have goofed up a bit with some of the port and implementation.
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How does it run? You sig is similar to my setup. What have you got the settings at?
 
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