Benitez unleashes on Ferguson

Did you watch Soccer Saturday this morning?

They were all ****ing themselves watching the interview with Rafa, The only person to say he was right and thinks it will do Liverpool a good turn...............


Phil 'cut me open and I bleed red' Thompson :D
 
I presume all the Mancs who were old enough to remember thought Fergie was barmy when he came out with his rant back in the late 80's?

In April 1988, a 46-year-old Alex Ferguson, not yet knighted and virtually the same age as Jose Mourinho is now, gave his take on how Liverpool benefited from refereeing decisions. "I can understand why clubs come away from Anfield choking on their own vomit and biting their tongues knowing they have been done by the referee," he said. "It would be a miracle to win here. I am not getting at this referee. It is the whole intimidating atmosphere and the monopoly they [Liverpool] have enjoyed here for years that gets to the referees eventually."


More than 20 years on, despite all that Ferguson has said since, that quotation is one of his most memorable. In fact you can still buy T-shirts in Manchester bearing those words. Coming after a 3-3 draw it became the defining take on the perceived bias of referees towards Liverpool at Anfield. It was argued over for months. The point is not whether Ferguson was right or wrong. The point is that people remembered. The point is that referees remembered.

If Rafael Benitez's invective yesterday against United was designed to do anything then it was designed to stick in people's minds, especially the part about United players haranguing referees and getting decisions at Old Trafford. Liverpool fans, spare me the pious emails telling me he is right. This is not about right or wrong – and who on earth could ever judge which team gets the most decisions at home? It is about having a calculated effect on referees in a title run-in that is heating up nicely.

Ferguson is a bully. In fact he's brilliant at it. After the FA Cup third round tie against Southampton, the manager Jan Poortvliet said, as respectfully as possible, that Ferguson stood up once in the whole game and after that every decision went for him. He may well be right, but does anyone seriously expect Ferguson not to use his 23 years of unprecedented success, his fame, his forceful personality to give himself an advantage? There is no manager who would not do the same.

Benitez has taken Ferguson on at his own game and for that he deserves admiration. It is testament to his own understated way of going about things that he had every argument typed out in bullet points on a sheet of paper. Ferguson prefers the molten-eruption, phlegm-flecked, finger-jabbing approach. Benitez delivered in the manner of a geologist giving a lecture on soil erosion.

The desired effect for the Liverpool manager is that every referee in charge of a United game from tomorrow to the end of the season is eager not to be the man fingered for caving into Ferguson. It will be the issue that grips us from now on: is Benitez right? And that is just the way the Liverpool manager wants it. If one referee has a moment of doubt because of what Benitez has said and denies United accordingly then, for Liverpool, it will have been worth it.

Ferguson will have to come back at Benitez, he will have to do so in order to defend his team. He has been here before, to a lesser degree, when Arsène Wenger accused the Neville brothers of targeting Jose Antonio Reyes in the famous 49-game unbeaten run-ending match in October 2004. Never mind the "Battle of the Buffet" that ensued, Ferguson was most concerned to address a public perception that his team were dirty because he realised how damaging that could be.

If you have any sympathy, save it for the referees who find themselves in a no-win situation. No one can actually remember whether that decision to send off Colin Gibson that sparked Ferguson's rant almost 21 years ago was right or not. They do not recall whether Steve McMahon should have been sent off too, which he also believed. They just recall the impression that Liverpool got decisions at home. Which is exactly the same legacy – albeit with referees at Old Trafford – that Benitez wishes to create.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ng-on-the-master-at-his-own-game-1297514.html
 
How has Rafa got it so on?
It's like the stupid leading the stupid...er... ;).

I've not said he has got it spot on, a lot of people have though :p

99% of Liverpool fans will say Benitez has got it spot on, 99% of Mancs will say he's gone mad just like 99% of Liverpool fans said the same when Fergie comes out with his rants and the Mancs are saying Fergie's a genius because of it.

As i said above imo it's all meaningless but i find it funny.
 
Dirk Kuyt thinks you are all stupid

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Did you watch Soccer Saturday this morning?

They were all ****ing themselves watching the interview with Rafa, The only person to say he was right and thinks it will do Liverpool a good turn...............


Phil 'cut me open and I bleed red' Thompson :D


So you totally ignored Nicholas then? :rolleyes:

Who pays attention to the thoughts of Le Tissier and the addict anyway?
 
So you totally ignored Nicholas then? :rolleyes:

Who pays attention to the thoughts of Le Tissier and the addict anyway?

Don't rolleyes me you damn fool :/

I was pointing out that it's Liverpool fans that think he;s right and everyone else is laughing their balls off at him and in answer to your question, yes I do ignore Charlie Nicholas.

I don't listen to any of them when they have rants I was pointing out they have nothing to do with either club and they were still wetting their pants at him

Next time think before you post
 
That might be your point of view, but there's also a lot of neutral fans who think Benitez was bang on. Swings and roundabouts.

I think he was right in what he was saying but it makes no difference, managers get away with saying all sorts of things.

Rafa was ranting about Fergie not getting punished but mentioned in the same rant how he was banned and fined, make your mind up Raf ffs

He mentioned the Southampton manager knows what Fergie is all about and how he cons referees yet has he been fined for his comments, has he ****

Like you say swings and roundabouts
 
Ferguson has said decisions at grounds favour teams, such as Liverpool in the past, what Benitez was saying though was Ferguson can say what he wants about a Referee and get away with it, which as we all know is utter nonsense. I've lost count of the number of fines and touchline bans he's had :D.
 
Speaking as a Liverpool fan, I wish Benitez hadnt said anything. There simply wasnt any need for it, just get on with the job and forget about all the ridiculous childrens playground mindgames. This is our best chance for almost 2 decades to win the league, if we beat Stoke tonight and Chelsea dont win tomorrow we will have a 5 point lead at the mid january stage.

Its been a hell of a long time since I last watched Liverpool win the league, its time I saw that again. Plus of course the bonus of dredging up every single persons posts on here who stated categorically that Liverpool would not win the league under Benitez.
 
Speaking as a Liverpool fan, I wish Benitez hadnt said anything. There simply wasnt any need for it, just get on with the job and forget about all the ridiculous childrens playground mindgames.

Indeed, there's a fair few on the Liverpool forums that agree with you, It was there that I first read about it and where I first saw it mentioned he had done a "Keegan"
 
0-0 vs stoke,now people are going to look at that result and will say thats benitez's fault

The only people who think that are people without a clue. Stoke in a tough place to go, United scraped a win and Arsenal lose, I certainly wasn't expecting us to blow them away.

Regardless, I doubt Rafa or the players care in the slightest what these people think.
 
The only people who think that are people without a clue. Stoke in a tough place to go, United scraped a win and Arsenal lose, I certainly wasn't expecting us to blow them away.


Yeah, you were, so was every single other liverpool fan, and the bookies too.
 
Yeah, you were, so was every single other liverpool fan, and the bookies too.

No, I wasn't. :confused:

I don't think in the same way as the bookies and I don't know what every other Liverpool fan was thinking.

What I do know is Stoke is a difficult place to go, United scraped a win there, Arsenal lost there, as did Spurs and as did Villa. I did my research and adjusted my expectations accordingly.
 
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