Been ID for buying Alcohol at 26

Selling alcohol to someone who is 17 is always illegal. The supermarket in this example will get fined and may lose their licence.

I accept that, it's just the whole righteous 'we're doing this as a responsible retailer spiel', when it's covering their back (which I add is reasonable as its probably coming accross that I don't) and they have tons of loss leaders on the alcohol shelves.

As for the "when you get pickpocketed they have all your details" - well, I live in a fairly safe part of the world - if you don't then maybe you should consider moving? If you are regularly pickpocketed I can't imagine it is a very nice place to live. I know there is a chance I might need photographic ID at some point, so I carry it in my wallet, with my bank & credit card, work ID and car breakdown card.

I carry it too as I buy booze fairly often from Morrisons and never know when I might next. I'm not worried about fraud or being pickpocketed though :confused:

I am 17 and have a credit card. Am I a fraudster?

(Hint: Credit cards in your name can be from someone else's account.)

Well I live and learn then. None of mine have ever had the option to do that to someone under 18. You must have someone that trusts you deeply :D
 
Did you get stroppy in the process? If not you'd have a better chance but I was thinking specifically of supermarkets really, I've gone in with mates before and while I had ID the others didn't but we all got refused alcohol - we were polite, if a little incredulous, throughout and still didn't get served so I'd expect it to be the same in most supermarkets.

Both were in supermarkets and neither time I did get stroppy. Both times I was on my own.
 
Nonsense. Of course the shop or pub doesn't have to serve me but the assistant is the contact point with the customer, the real sad fact is that the cowards behind the legislation are the ones that have put the worker in that situation not me.
I assure you it is not nonsense. What gives you the right to be rude to someone that is merely enforcing the company policy? It's sad and pathetic and makes you look like a complete drama queen who needs to get some perspective in life and find some real things to moan about. The people behind the legislation have not put the worker in any situation other than to ask for I.D. Unfortaunately the legislatures don't take account for arsey folks who think the world owes them something.

Underage drinking is getting worse in this country, it is certainly much worse than when I wasn't old enough to drink without some spotty oik, half my age, asking me if I am old enough to do so. The system we have at the moment is clearly not working, the main reason is that they are not enforcing the current laws adequately, all they are doing is pushing the responsibility onto people that have no appropriate training, pay or desire to do so. Instead of effective policing we rely on a teenage girl reading the message given to her by the till or a big lummox at the door of a pub that thinks they are rambo put there to clean up the streets because they have gone on a wholly inadequate training course set up by the very people that cannot be bothered to their jobs in the first place. It is madness and getting worse.

Yes, underage drinking is getting worse in this country. Hence these programs that have been introduced. I'm sorry but I’m just amazed at how people can take this as anything other than a compliment? I suppose after working weekends for the last 4 years in a shop I shouldn't be, but it just seems to defy all reasonable logic.

"Can I see proof of age please?"
"Yes, certainly"
*pulls driving license out of wallet*
"There you go"
"Thanks, goodbye"

Isn't that so much easier than:
"Can I see proof of age please?"
"What? OMG I'm 23!!!"
"Yes, i'm sure you are, but I don't want to run the risk of a £5000 fine, I.D please"
"THIS IS AN OUTRAGE – MANAGER !!" etc. etc. etc.

Contrary to popular belief this is not some kind of big brother conspiracy to condition us all for ID cards - you can put your tin foil hat down. It is a nationwide procedure that has been introduced in an attempt to curb underage drinking, now you may argue that this isn't working and that's fine, I agree that it certainly shouldn't be the only policy that is introduced. But surely any attempt to stop groups of oxygen thieves standing around drinking should be applauded? Even if it does waste a whole 10 seconds of your precious time.

Long story short, get over it. If you're one of these people that feels the need to kick up a fuss at the slightest thing, then please try and do it with respect for the people that are simply doing their job
 
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That can't be real.

Yep, I couldn't believe it either thats why I took the pic. It was in Birmingham, we saw it when we were on a stag do there last year.

Also, was in TGI Fridays in New York at Christmas and BOTH my parents (mid 60's) got asked for ID. They said that they blanket ID everyone but still, come on :rolleyes:
 
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I carry it too as I buy booze fairly often from Morrisons and never know when I might next. I'm not worried about fraud or being pickpocketed though :confused:

Sorry, the pickpocket part wasn't directed at you; I was directing it at someone above who was complaining that he had to now carry his drivers licence with his wallet now in case he got asked for ID (despite being old enough). I was pointing out that the chance of him being pickpocketed (one of his reasons for not wanting to carry ID) was pretty remote.
 
It's also quite funny when young people are on the checkouts and they have to ask their supervisor whether they can serve you or not.

I happened to see a girl working in Waitrose who had given me a **** load of abuse for not serving her with no ID when she came into a place I worked a few weeks previously. I immediately went and got a beer (having not intended to buy any) and joined her queue. As predicted she had to ring the buzzer and get someone to come and authorise the sale :D.
 
Some spotty teen brat in weatherspoons ID'ed me not that long ago. Im 25 6ft6 well built and this kid was about 4ft something. I was like "are you having a laugh?". Dunno why but it made me rage!!!!!!!! :D
 
Dunno why but it made me rage!!!!!!!! :D

Argh, but why for goodness sake? It must be a British thing to take offence at people thinking you look young. Of course, the rest of the developed world is spending millions on face cream and dressing nice in an attempt to look younger than they really are, but us in Britain get angry at people who think we look young :confused::confused::confused:
 
The easiest way is as they do in the States - No ID - No Alcohol. It really is that simple, after a while everyone will get used to being asked - end of story
 
Argh, but why for goodness sake? It must be a British thing to take offence at people thinking you look young. Of course, the rest of the developed world is spending millions on face cream and dressing nice in an attempt to look younger than they really are, but us in Britain get angry at people who think we look young :confused::confused::confused:

Nah its not that. the places has doormen on the doors, the kid was just on a power trip tbh, prob after a promotional star or something.
 
Nah its not that. the places has doormen on the doors, the kid was just on a power trip tbh, prob after a promotional star or something.

You do understand how liable he is in law if he gets caught serving under 18s right? Would showing him your driving license without getting "raged" have been so difficult? Not everyone who asks for I.D is a jobsworth or on some kind of power trip.
 
Ive been asked for ID four times in the last six months by the same woman at the co-op! tis like ground hog day or something, first time i took it as a compliment, 2nd time was slightly amused, 3rd and 4th a bit miffed :p
 
Ive been asked for ID four times in the last six months by the same woman at the co-op! tis like ground hog day or something, first time i took it as a compliment, 2nd time was slightly amused, 3rd and 4th a bit miffed :p

Suprisingly people in shops don't have the ability to recall every customer that has walked through the door...
 
The easy answer to this is that trading standards test kiddies (in most council areas) aren't allowed to lie about their age if questioned. So first question is always "How old are you?".

They are allowed to lie.
 
You do understand how liable he is in law if he gets caught serving under 18s right? Would showing him your driving license without getting "raged" have been so difficult? Not everyone who asks for I.D is a jobsworth or on some kind of power trip.

Nope but she was :)
 
They are allowed to lie.

Sorry but they aren't.* If asked they must tell the truth otherwise it is entrapment.

* Unless policy has changed, that was certainly the case when I did some work for trading standards some years back. I still can't see a defence losing if it can be verified that age was requested. I don't believe it is law to ask for ID, just policy.

Which incidentally I don't agree with. I don't drive, have no intention of doing so, refuse to carry a passport around, or "buy" an ID card. If an establishment refuses to serve me (not that there's much chance of that in Croydon :p) I will simply go elsewhere. I'm 33 and look it and have never actually been asked for ID in my life anyway. It would wind me up if asked though.
 
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