**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**
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Its a non story, Liverpool are not going to pay 30 million for him if he was available cheaper than that United would already have him signed, its all rumors from his agent to try and push through the united deal before the end of the loan.
Probably only because he gets more though, when I've watched Kuyt recently I've been truly impressed, I used to think he was garbage!
you don't have to put being a utd supporter along with the other 2 you know
oh and we've signed Dodo.
There is an interesting debate on this week's Guardian Football Podcast about Tevez. They are speculating whether Utd are playing hard ball or not. As Tevez is essentially a free agent at present (only on loan at Utd and not signed to any other club) would any club pay £30m for him. The sticking point is that we have paid £10m up front for a two year loan deal with the option to buy for £20m. Transfers fee's have naturally deflated and Kia Joorabchian is still holding firm for £20m off us or another £10m loan deal with someone else plus a guaranteed £20m at the end of it.
At those kind of prices it would price a lot of the so called interested parties out of it. Especially when you consider that the Premier League would be all over any other loan deal like a bad rash.
I don't think his future away from United is as cut and dried as some would believe as I can't see Utd literally writing off £10m just like that.
At those kind of prices it would price a lot of the so called interested parties out of it. Especially when you consider that the Premier League would be all over any other loan deal like a bad rash.
I don't think his future away from United is as cut and dried as some would believe as I can't see Utd literally writing off £10m just like that.
Indeed and we have David Dein to blame for that. Hopefully Kroenke will mount a take over shortly as he has more money (and currently more shares), is actually a football man, doesn't have people murdered and is generally a nice man.
However it's unlikely the fat Russian would pass a fit and proper person test to own AFC.
I really can't see Tevez stopping with Man Utd, he feels hard done by and I feel sorry for him. To see Berbatov brought in last summer must have been a real kick in the balls after the season the team had.
My opinion on the situation is that they're waiting to see if they can get any of their other targets before they commit to buying Tevez. Probably making preliminary enquiries about Benzema and the likes and keeping it quiet.
I think the only club desperate enough to pay £30M for Tevez is Man City and I see that as his most likely destination next season.
My opinion on the situation is that they're waiting to see if they can get any of their other targets before they commit to buying Tevez. Probably making preliminary enquiries about Benzema and the likes and keeping it quiet.
I think the only club desperate enough to pay £30M for Tevez is Man City and I see that as his most likely destination next season.
You really think Fergie's going to keep him, regarldess of the fee, after what Tevez has said this season? IMO he was leaving as soon as he came out a few months back calling Fergie a liar (when Fergie said he rejected your offer to him), he then gives the interview at the weekend and then celebrates the way he did when he scored on Sunday.
He's not indespensible to you and you only have to ask a certain dutch centre back what happens when you talk too much. Saying that, i do think Tevez already knew he's leaving and the interview was just a to make it clear for any club who doesn't already know, that he's available.
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Alonso to madrid latest on the rumour mill...
No he's not indespensible your right. But I don't think anyone is untouched by the global economic situation and the point stands true, would you pay £30m for a free agent. Fergie has said as much that getting rid of Stam was a mistake so maybe he has learned that. Not suggesting he is in the same league as Stam. However, if he does go we still have to spend money on a short term replacement whilst the likes of Macheda, Wellbeck & Campbell mature. Tevez now knows the Prem.
I still think he will go but I am inclined to think that it isn't bang on 100% that he is off.
I have to agree about how Tevez must have felt (and feel now) after Ferguson spent £30m on Berbatov and having seen how Ferguson seemingly isn't happy to pay the same for Tevez when Tevez is about 5 times better in a Man Utd shirt. Must suck for Tevez's confidence seeing Berbatov considered as better than him
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So who's is this Dodo we've signed? There are about a thousand dodos in Brazil, youngster?
One of the broadsheets last week where saying (and I have seen this figure stated elsewhere) it was £3m per season
I have also seen the main crux of your post as well - and maybe it will work (but I guess it depends on the actual details of the loan agreement also - if Utd have previously agreed to X figure, then no matter what happens that is binding to a certain extent)
Not according to this season he isnt - not even close to double
Berba certainly hasnt been that good I grant you - but Tevez has dropped off since last season too (and surely he should have got better in his 2nd season not worse)
He has had enough chances (ie starts / games) and not really shown much apart from one Carling Cup match - and the odd goal like at the weekend
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Fergie may well have said that selling Stam was a mistake but his reasons for why it was a mistake (his continued form in Italy) had nothing to do with why he was sold. Despite what Fergie has said publically, Stam wasn't sold because of his age etc but because of what he said.
As for Tevez's fee; if you are implying that KJ may lower Tevez's fee because of the credit crunch then i think you are mistaken. £10m of his transfer fee has already been paid by you, he only stands to get another ~£20m if Tevez signs for you. Why on earth would he lower that £20m fee? There are plenty of other clubs that would be willing to pay £20m+ for Tevez and possibly even more than last year thanks to the stronger euro.
SSN said he as a Brazilian U-17 player.
word on the street is he's the new baresi. but better looking.