**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

All that matters is that they've been with us for 3 years prior to their 21st birthday :p

We've got a few young English players who are pretty decent but they're all midgets and to make it these days you've either got to be 6ft+ or exceptionally good.

Anyway, Ince, Amoo and Darby are English :)
 
BaZ87 said:
All that matters is that they've been with us for 3 years prior to their 21st birthday :p

We've got a few young English players who are pretty decent but they're all midgets and to make it these days you've either got to be 6ft+ or exceptionally good.

Anyway, Ince, Amoo and Darby are English :)
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You're going to turn into Arsenal soon enough. Carragher and Gerrard are no spring chickens, in a few years time you'll be fielding Spain's B team. :p
 
It's the way a lot of clubs are going to be honest. It's far cheaper to pick up a prospect in Spain or Italy for a couple of hundred thousand in compo than to pay £5m+ for a similar English player.

Thanks to the EU, the likes of Insua will count as a home grown player next season so all this 6+5 nonsense won't change anything.
 
BaZ87 said:
It's the way a lot of clubs are going to be honest. It's far cheaper to pick up a prospect in Spain or Italy for a couple of hundred thousand in compo than to pay £5m+ for a similar English player.

Thanks to the EU, the likes of Insua will count as a home grown player next season so all this 6+5 nonsense won't change anything.
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what a friggin stupid rule

Dont get me wrong, Liverpool are using the rule to their advantage and good for them, but if you are going to have a rule like that then they need to be British/UK passport holders or nothing otherwise its a complete nonsense

I thought the rule was to assist with the home grown Int teams - if anything that just gets yougsters from abroad get decent experience at our expense (which is the exact opposite to what the rule intended)
 
EU rules mean that nationality will never be taken into account and Liverpool haven't taken advantage of the rule either. As yet, we haven't got a foreign player who is classed as home grown.

Also, Liverpool are the only club from the top 4 to have started an English player in ever league game.
 
FrankJH said:
what a friggin stupid rule

Dont get me wrong, Liverpool are using the rule to their advantage and good for them, but if you are going to have a rule like that then they need to be British/UK passport holders or nothing otherwise its a complete nonsense

I thought the rule was to assist with the home grown Int teams - if anything that just gets yougsters from abroad get decent experience at our expense (which is the exact opposite to what the rule intended)
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Exactly, although its not like UEFA/FIFA to bring in a sensible rule anyway. :rolleyes:
 
It has nothing to do with Uefa or Fifa. EU laws won't allow a rule based on the number of foreign (providing they are from the EU) players. IINM that is what Uefa initially wanted but it can't happen and i wouldn't be suprised if this 'home grown' rule gets challenged and overturned also.
 
BaZ87 said:
Nemeth signed then was out injured for first half of last season, came back and was incredible for the reserves. It's been suggested that he would have featured in the Cups this season but again he was injured a lot in the first half of the season and then went out on loan and got injured on his debut.

According to Nemeth, he trains with the first team now rather than the reserves so it's possible he might get a run out vs Spurs and im sure (along with Pacheco) that he'll gradually be brought into the fold like Insua has this season.

As for Anderson, i've felt for a while that like Hobbs, he wouldn't make the grade.

Of all our youngsters we've got coming through, the ones that have a chance of making it with us are; Ince (yes, Paul's son), Amoo, San Jose and Darby and in particular; Dalla Valle, Buchtmann, Nemeth and Pacheco.

edit: and the 2 keepers; Gulacsi and Bouzanis (reportedly a greek side has already offered £1m for him).
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No Spearing in that list?
 
must be sacrilidge to have a Welsh or Northern Ireland passport these days

Still part of the UK is what I say :D


reports are suggesting that Valencia is now going to RM for just over £21m - for that kind of price they can have him lol
 
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BaZ87 said:
EU rules mean that nationality will never be taken into account and Liverpool haven't taken advantage of the rule either. As yet, we haven't got a foreign player who is classed as home grown.

Also, Liverpool are the only club from the top 4 to have started an English player in ever league game.
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Sadly the EU rules wont apply in this matter, FIFA has already got a loophole for the EU which enables them to pass the rule in europe. I did warn everyone about this a few months back when FIFA passed the rule in principle by 155 votes to 5.

I am at work at the moment, but if anyone wants I can dig up the website that I followed the FIFA conference on, it goes into great detail about how they can actually get the rule working in the EU using the loophole regarding nationalities. Its got a lot of detail about how the rule comes into effect, starting in the 2010-2011 season as 4+7, then 5+6 in 2011-2012 season and finally 6+5 in the 2012-2013 season. Also explains what they mean by the various terms, for instance the player simply must be eligible for the host nation, not necessarily of that nation. So for example, Almunia would count.

With us wanting the world cup in 2018, you can bet we wont put up too much of an argument about the 6+5 rule (also, interestingly...of the 160 delegates who voted in that conference about the rule, the english FA was one of the 155 who said yes)
 
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from the BBC:

Inter Milan and AC Milan are set to battle it out over signing Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor.
(Full story: Daily Mail)

Manchester City are stepping up their bid to take on former Manchester United striker Diego Forlan for £20m from Atletico Madrid.
(Full story: Daily Mirror)

Wigan have lined up a deal with Real Madrid to receive £21.5m for Latics winger Antonio Valencia.
(Full story: Daily Mail)

Liverpool midfielder Xabi Alonso could be on his way to Real Madrid for £21m if Florentino Perez returns as club president. (Daily Star)

Tottenham are targeting Lazio striker Goran Pandev. (Daily Mirror)

Spurs are lining up a bid for Wolfsburg's Bosnia striker Edin Dzeko. (Daily Mail)

Tottenham are weighing up an £8m offer for Celtic midfielder Scott Brown. (Daily Express)

Rangers midfielder Barry Ferguson is poised for a £1m summer move to West Brom. (The Sun)

Celtic are hoping to sign Barcelona forward Bojan Krkic on loan. (The Sun)

Bruno Aguiar's agent says the midfielder will leave Hearts, with Ajax, Celtic and Rangers showing interest. (Various)

Red Bull Salzburg left-back Ronald Gercaliu says he would be interested in joining Celtic. (The Sun)

Swindon Town have told Celtic to double their bid for striker Simon Cox after offering £1.2m for the striker and defender Sean Morrison. (Daily Mail)

Crystal Palace are ready to move for Derby's Jamaica defender Claude Davis, who has been on loan at Selhurst Park. (Daily Express)

Bolton are keen on signing West Brom full-back Paul Robinson. (The Sun)

Ipswich and Leicester are battling for the signature of Lincoln winger Dany N'Guessan. (The Sun)

Portsmouth's Sean Davis has turned down a new contract, with Wigan and Wolves set to move in on the midfielder. (Daily Mirror)

Wolves are set to swoop for Standard Liege centre-half Oguchi Onyewu. (Daily Mirror)

Motherwell have offered a pre-contract deal to Lincoln City defender Lee Beevers. (Daily Express)

Hearts are in pole position to sign Darlington striker Pawel Abbott. (Daily Mirror)

Aberdeen have given injury-jinxed midfielder Jamie Smith permission to fly to Canada to hold contract talks with Toronto. (Daily Record)


OTHER GOSSIP
Arsene Wenger's future as Arsenal manager has come under more scrutiny. The Frenchman has been stung by criticism in the recent shareholders' meeting. He is also annoyed by the news that striker Adebayor is set to quit. (Various)
(Full story: The Sun)

AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti's proposed move to the Chelsea managerial helm has taken a twist, with the London club reluctant to employ the Italian's assistants Mauro Tassotti and Filippo Galli.
(Full story: The Times)

Carlos Tevez's exit from Old Trafford looks sealed after the Argentine forward failed to attend Manchester United's player of the year dinner.
(Full story: The Sun)

England's World Cup-winning legend Geoff Hurst, attending his country's bid to stage the 2018 World Cup, is a big fan of striker Wayne Rooney. He said: "Winning the World Cup in your own country is huge and I think Rooney can do it." (Various)

Midfielder Stewart Downing, forward Tuncay, striker Afonso Alves and defender Robert Huth will leave if Middlesbrough are relegated at the weekend. (Daily Mail)

Willie Miller has called for urgent action by the Scottish Football Association. Aberdeen's director of football is unhappy after Rangers striker Kyle Lafferty feigned injury on Saturday that led to the sending off of Aberdeen defender Charlie Mulgrew.
(Full story: Daily Record)

Kyle Lafferty says his father was ashamed of his behaviour against Aberdeen on Sunday. (The Sun)

Aberdeen's Charlie Mulgrew is poised to be cleared on Tuesday after his sending off. (The Herald)

But Madjid Bougherra is likely to lose his appeal against the red card shown to the Rangers defender against Aberdeen. (The Herald)

Falkirk will appeal against the red card shown to Steven Pressley during Saturday's defeat by St Mirren. (Various)

Motherwell will be confirmed as Uefa Fair Play entrants to the Europa League unless they suffer two red cards in their final game. (Daily Record)

Manchester City's Stephen Ireland is set to leave Eastlands with the midfielder upset with contract negotiations stalling. (Various)
(Full story: The Sun)

Investors from the United States and the Middle East are lining up a £140m offer for Newcastle United - but it all hangs on the club remaining in the Premier League.
(Full story: The Guardian)

Wigan striker Amr Zaki, who is on loan from Zamalek, insists he was the one to pull the plug on a permanent move. (Daily Mirror)

Everton defender Phil Jagielka is to be rewarded for his efforts this season by being given a new contract, despite a bad knee injury. (The Sun)

England's 2018 World Cup bid may rest on the Premier League accepting Fifa and Uefa regulations stipulating that a side must contain a minimum of six home-grown players and a maximum of five foreigners. (Daily Express)

Celtic have denied that they have asked Lech Poznan coach Franciszek Smuda to succeed Gordon Strachan as manager. (The Sun)
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