Carrick scores more goals though
**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**
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Carrick scores more goals though
He's also clearly stated numerous occasions that he'd like to play in Spain also. A player like Fabregas should be winning trophies also and he's not doing that at Arsenal. Wouldn't surprise me if this was his last season in the Premiershipm that's if you can hold onto him for that long
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He deserves to be at a better club really.
Yes he's said at some point he'd like to return to Spain, and doesnt intend on doing it soon. Admittedly if we flop this season then i can see him wanting out before next season but he's not going anywhere this summer. Plus the quote is from the Sun and doesnt say he wants to leave anyway.
We've had our fair share of signing dodgy unproven Brazilians in the past so that seems like the logical thing to try and do, it's not like he's available for peanuts like Kaka and Pato was when Milan signed them.
I wouldn't like to risk it to be honest
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Then again this is the same club that Ronaldinho came from and we all regretted not making that move didn't we! 18m is definitely too much though, if we could get them down to 12-14m then he might be worth a shot.
I'm sick of Fabregas, he's supposed to be club captain and leading by example, now he's just getting annoying and starting to sound like Ronaldo. And to counter what somebody else said a few posts up, I don't think he deserves a better club, he was with a better club and they obviously didn't value him, he's 22, if he hadn't been at Arsenal there is no way on earth he'd be the player he is today, he owes a lot to Arsenal and I can't see how this is going to help anything at all. I don't understand why players say stuff like that to the media, if he's going to leave it'll all be sorted behind closed doors, so why run your mouth to the public who are just going to dislike you for it when they don't need to know :/
He won't leave this summer, there's no way that Wenger would sell him, the fans would crucify him, he's probably saying to Wenger 'buy somebody very good or I am going to make life hard for you'
Edit - I just read the last part of an article which included something about the differences between Arsenal and Spain -
I've definitely, definitely got that feeling throughout the season, the players don't seem to really like each other that much, there doesn't seem to be any connection like there is at Man Utd etc. the players don't want to work/fight for each other it just doesn't seem to be working.
He won't leave this summer, there's no way that Wenger would sell him, the fans would crucify him, he's probably saying to Wenger 'buy somebody very good or I am going to make life hard for you'
Edit - I just read the last part of an article which included something about the differences between Arsenal and Spain -
I've definitely, definitely got that feeling throughout the season, the players don't seem to really like each other that much, there doesn't seem to be any connection like there is at Man Utd etc. the players don't want to work/fight for each other it just doesn't seem to be working.
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It's also the same club Lucas came from and we only paid £5m
Bargain.
Good business that, Sell a player about as useful as a chocolate teapot for 5M.
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word on the street is that Tevez's advisors have been in Abu Dhabi and have all but finalised the deal for a transfer to Man City.
Finally.
I'll go and see my friend I know that is a City supporter later, and listen to him bang on about how good Tevez is an is a bargain 35M and United were stupid to not sign him.
All Man City fans I know think that they're team is brilliant and will win the PL next season, it's quite sad and funny.
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I can't understand some gooners, lets get this straight, he came to Arsenal because we had vieira, Gilberto and no one else to play central midfield, at the time I believe Barca had, Mendieta, Xavi and a half dozen internationals who could play central midfield, he thought he had a better chance at Arsenal who were known to play youth players, Iniesta was also getting games in the first team at that point, and it took INiesta another 2-3 years to become a regular.
He came to Arsenal a trained, very very good player, he wasn't "not wanted" at barca, simply to young to be on a professional contract so could go where he wanted. He was incredibly good and didn't suddenly become good because he was at Arsenal, he didn't join, turn into a great player in 3 months training.
He IS good enough to deserve to win, did you see the game last night, Spain, the Euro champions who might have the best team in the world were dominating with him providing every single chance for 20 minutes before he was subbed, he was playing out of position, the very second he went off SPain couldn't make it into the USA's penalty box for 10 minutes and looked a hugely worse team.
INiesta, with people wetting themselves, started most/all games in the Euro's, yet it was only when Fabregas came on as a sub that Spain started to click with Fabregas getting a simply sick amount of assists and key passes, and a goal or two. He's BETTER than both INiesta and Xavi and has shown how much more effective than both of them he is at the highest level of competition. ARsenal have gotten much worse since he's been there and is getting irritated. ALso keep in mind his best friend at Arsenal WAS Senderos, and he also got on with Henry very well apparently, and Hleb and Flamini so he has seen all his best friends leave, most of them to clubs he misses and who tell him to come back often.
TO critisize Cesc, pretend he's not very good and say Arsenal made him is to be as utterly Pathetic as all the UTd fans pretending Ronaldo had a poor season and is easily replacable.
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It's also the same club Lucas came from and we only paid £5m
Touche
Still I think Fergie has had his eye on him for over a year now. He should have a good idea how much he's worth.
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Haha, some Arsenal fans are so deluded
How has he shown he is better at the highest level? Fabregas barely turned up over 2 legs against United, Iniesta and Xavi on the other hand only had 90 minutes and utterly dominated us.
What are you talking about? I'm fed up with his attitude, not his footballing ability. Barca didn't know how good he was, they didn't really care. If they paid attention for any amount of time they would have known he was about to turn into a world class player and would not have sold him, they obviously didn't care too much about him.
I agree that he's nearly as good as Xavi/Iniesta but since he's not playing for a winning team that obviously doesn't get recognised. Nearly every time he plays for Spain he outshines them all (apart from the final last year where he had an OK game)
Haha, some Arsenal fans are so deluded
How has he shown he is better at the highest level? Fabregas barely turned up over 2 legs against United, Iniesta and Xavi on the other hand only had 90 minutes and utterly dominated us.
He has a point and so do you, Xavi AND Iniesta dominated you, Fabregas AND Song/Denilson were never going to do that. Fabregas has had no class next to him all year and it has obviously taken it's toll. When he's playing amongst world class players for Spain he looks better than them all, consistently.
Fabregas going to Real Madrid???....i find that very hard to believe as hes a Barca boy at heart, would have thought he would go back to Barca...as ive said before i wouldnt be surprised if he leaves by next yr if we dont start winning some silverware and to be honest i wouldnt blame him for going. But honestly if Fabregas wants to go then i cant seen us doing anything to stop him from leaving...we just arent spending enough money in the transfer window for us to challenge for anything next season...im hoping that its the other way around that we do actually challenge for some silverware next season but im not holding my breath.
On another note, sky sports reporting that Man City are lining up a £12mill bid for Kolo Toure lol...i hope Arsenal tell Hughes to go shove it where the sun dont shine..slap a £40mill price tag on him as well while they are at it...not that i think hes worth that much.
On another note, sky sports reporting that Man City are lining up a £12mill bid for Kolo Toure lol...i hope Arsenal tell Hughes to go shove it where the sun dont shine..slap a £40mill price tag on him as well while they are at it
...not that i think hes worth that much.
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