**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

Fingers crossed Spawn. And really, I don't think we'd be desperately in need of a replacement if he did go. If we can carefully rotate the inevitable injuries to RvP and Eduardo, the two of them should be able to bear most of the brunt of our striking work, with Vela/Bendtner/Walcott (depending where he plays) helping out when needed. This is one situation where I don't think I'll complain if Wenger buys a random unknown youngster for next season or the one after.

Also, OH GOD NO MORE MESSI VS RONALDO DEBATES PLZ
 
IIRC Henry had 23 assists in the league alone a few years back.

Hadn't spotted that, impressive aswell though its 23 in 58 games that year, all 23 were in the prem where he only played 37 games, but then again that was maybe the most impressive year for any player ever, scored 33 aswell, simply superb player, but the point is, theres probably 4-5 players max to have 20+ assists tbh. BUt the thing for me is, Ronaldo got 20 assists when the club had poachers, Tevez/Rooney aren't poachers, they drop deep and create(well Rooney does, Tevez drops deep, does an impression of a rabid dog and little else).

IF Man U had gotten a new oli/saha/rudd I have no doubt Ronaldo would have loads of assists, without blinkers on you can see any time Rooney/Giggs/Nani/Tevez had a semi decent game he'd create chance after chance for them, its not his fault they aren't put in the back of the net.


Looks like Adebayor may well be on his way to AC Milan...sky sports reporting that AC Milan have approached him etc...hopefully get some decent money for him so we can buy someone better than him...

Doubtful tbh, more like, we called the club with the guy we want, they said they'd call back IF he became available. Lets play hard ball and let it be publically known we're after other players so Wolfsburg come in with a big number and we can pay it. But you never know, I can only hope we ditch him, sure he'll get goals for us, but other players can, other players who do more for the team, create more chances and show up in all games. Frankly any club can work with a 10 chances per goal player, and they'll play ok against West Brom, blackburn, Derby, but you just won't be winning CL finals or big cups with those players, so why waste our time.


EDIT:- http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=8039&cc=5739

This is what gives me hope that ESPN will actually provide great coverage, they already have the single best football stats site anywhere right now, its blooming fantastic. Been looking for something with assist stats and years passed for ages. They know their stuff ;)
 
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson will return to his desk at 8am tomorrow at the club's Carrington training ground


First, he will intensify negotiations for £45million Atletico Madrid playmaker Sergio 'Kun' Aguero :eek: and then complete the £14m signing of Wigan's Luis Antonio Valencia.


:p
 
BREAKING GOSSIP

1545 BST: AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani reveals he has talked to Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger about the possibility of signing Togo international striker Emmanuel Adebayor.

YIP ****ING PEE!!

Edit - bah I'm late.

Fair, hopefully the same person who somehow got us money for Cygan can broker this deal.
 
Surprised there haven't been more clubs sniffing round RvN at the supposed £1.5m asking price. I know he turns 33 this week and has been out injured for months but his game was never based around pace anyway.

Heck, I'd take him at Arsenal as a replacement for Adebayor at that price, we could probably stump up for his wages. I'd guess he'd want more than a 1yr contract though.
 
He wouldn't be offered more than a years contract by Wenger. However his experience for our forwards and strikers would be fantastic.

How long a contract did we give Silvestre? still by far the most bizarre thing Wenger's done frankly, he must be on fairly hefty wages, old player, utterly useless and past it and we bought him at that stage.

WE really don't need a replacement for Ade though, waste of wages. Frankly starting this season all looking to be completely fit are RVP, Eduardo, both truly and utterly world class, Vela, Bendtner, Theo, and lets be honest, Arshavin, Nasri both are "withdrawn/support" strikers who do much better through the middle, Rosicky is really a central attacking mid, Denilson is really only useful inside the penalty box(all his assists and shots (on target) come deep inside the box. We're a club completely overflowing with central heavily attacking biased players.

With two strikers in Eddie/RVP that really any club in the world would start, Bendtner whose very powerful in the air and got 9 goals in the league in 17 starts, which is pretty damn impressive, with almost none of those appearances in his prefered role(he's a withdrawn striker and when played there set up a bunch of goals for vela, and 9 at international level), Vela whose looking like a younger Eddie, Theo, whose a bit crap but meh.

When you look at Utd, they won the title with Arguably Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov as their only real strikers, with Wellbeck/Macheda not even close to as good as our "backup" strikers.

We simply don't need strikers and should ditch Ade without a second thought, we just need to actually play Eddie/Vela who were both vastly underused this year, and play bendtner consistantly in a single position.
 
Drunkenmaster.
I disagree.

I think that one thing that Arsenal have lacked for a very long time is a "natural" goal scorer, I think that if you were to buy Horseface He'd score you buckets of goals with the amount of chances you create.

Robin, and Eduardo are good players, wouldn't be too sure about world class or any club in the world having them :p

Bendter has yet to impress me for Arsenal, he is given a lot of opportunities, and misses the majority of them. Vela is looking like being a great little forward, who will be playing more and more this season, I'd get rid of Bendtner and Ade, and look to bring in a natural goal scorer, regardless of age.

You also need a bit of presence up front in my opinion. None of your forwards do that at the moment.

Horse face for a couple of million, would be a steal, even if it's only for one or two seasons.
 
How long a contract did we give Silvestre? still by far the most bizarre thing Wenger's done frankly, he must be on fairly hefty wages, old player, utterly useless and past it and we bought him at that stage.

WE really don't need a replacement for Ade though, waste of wages. Frankly starting this season all looking to be completely fit are RVP, Eduardo, both truly and utterly world class, Vela, Bendtner, Theo, and lets be honest, Arshavin, Nasri both are "withdrawn/support" strikers who do much better through the middle, Rosicky is really a central attacking mid, Denilson is really only useful inside the penalty box(all his assists and shots (on target) come deep inside the box. We're a club completely overflowing with central heavily attacking biased players.

With two strikers in Eddie/RVP that really any club in the world would start, Bendtner whose very powerful in the air and got 9 goals in the league in 17 starts, which is pretty damn impressive, with almost none of those appearances in his prefered role(he's a withdrawn striker and when played there set up a bunch of goals for vela, and 9 at international level), Vela whose looking like a younger Eddie, Theo, whose a bit crap but meh.

When you look at Utd, they won the title with Arguably Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov as their only real strikers, with Wellbeck/Macheda not even close to as good as our "backup" strikers.

We simply don't need strikers and should ditch Ade without a second thought, we just need to actually play Eddie/Vela who were both vastly underused this year, and play bendtner consistantly in a single position.


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Drunkenmaster.
I disagree.

I think that one thing that Arsenal have lacked for a very long time is a "natural" goal scorer, I think that if you were to buy Horseface He'd score you buckets of goals with the amount of chances you create.

Robin, and Eduardo are good players, wouldn't be too sure about world class or any club in the world having them :p

So the fact that Bendtner has only played 3-4 games this year in his natural position(behind a small fast striker) and when he has done so, like sheffield with Vela ahead of him, the team scored 6 goals with him involved in them all? he scored 9 in 17 starts? please tell me how thats poor, thats almost twice the goals Tevez got, with less time on the pitch, with FAR less time in his prefered position, and Tevez is apparently worth 35mil.

likewise, RVP is wanted, not only by Utd, but by many clubs, he is unquestionably world class, as is Eduardo whose goals to games ratio throughout his career is pretty sick. He scores at international level against any level of opposition, as does Bendtner and RVP, at this point in time afaik all 3 are the most prolific scorers for their international teams. RVP was Arsenals best player this year and despite horrific injury to Eduardo he scored a stunning brace on his return which while against a weaker team, the quality of the finishing is simply undeniable.

Eduardo is quite literally one of the most natural finishers in the world and only Wengers obsession with playing Ade instead of Eduardo is holding Eddie back.

AS for lack of presence upfront, again Ade is the problem and Wengers insistance on playing him, a guy who back away from most high/long balls to him, who refuses to use his strength and size, while Bendtner has come on multiple times to getting crucial winning headers in games. Yet again its Wengers refusal to give Bendtner more than 2-3 starts in a row, I think his longest run all season was 4 starts in a row and even then he played about 4 positions in those games. I can't name another striker who would have done better being played left wing, right wing, and as a striker, most players need to gain some form and most aren't dropped everytime they score a goal(except Bent maybe).
 
I have to agree with DM (please dont quote me lol) there is nothing wrong with our strike force...except none of them can stay fit for more than a few games.

Ade needs a slap around the head or told to leave tbh.

Bendtner who probably has a similar scoring record to Rooney who also plays out of position seems to get a lot of abuse from both Arsenal and other fans.

Personally I think the boy has something about him, and he is still only a boy in terms of being a striker. I think he will step up to the mark this year. He might have missed a lot but he did well out of position, got into some good space...unfortunately his finishing wasnt as good as it can be. But I know if he gets the confidence he can finish just as good as anyone.

I think we do need another striker but more for cover WHEN our players get injured, not because we have a lack of talent upfront.

I think Utd are in more of a need for a striker than us.
 
With two strikers in Eddie/RVP that really any club in the world would start

I disagree, IMO Eduardo and RvP would not always start in some teams (you only have to look at Arsenal to see that's the case!)

Take Barcelona, I can't really see them giving the finger to the likes of Messi and Henry in favour of strikers who have won very little at club level.

Even if it was decided that those two are the best I don't think with their track record that you could rely on them both playing 60 matches a season (in their entire careers, neither of them has EVER managed even 45 matches). And Ruud is a better out-and-out striker than Bendtner, Vela and Walcott IMO.
 
Yet again its Wengers refusal to give Bendtner more than 2-3 starts in a row, I think his longest run all season was 4 starts in a row

I just looked quickly and he started at least 6 games in a row:

West Ham
Stoke
Fenerbache
Man Utd
Villa
Man City

And how many goals did he score in those 6 starts? Zero. IMO it's hardly surprising he wasn't starting every game following that return, I'm fairly sure he was playing as a striker in most of those games too.

In fact if you look at his record until May, the only current Premiership teams he scored against last season were Bolton and Hull.
 
Oh please, Eduardo/RvP starting at any club in the world?

No. They would be rotation players, just like they are now.

Hard to say tbh. They don't play enough.

You can't deny that when they are both on top of their game they are incredible players (coming from a chelsea fan)
 
Hard to say tbh. They don't play enough.

You can't deny that when they are both on top of their game they are incredible players (coming from a chelsea fan)

Unfortunately it's irrelevant as neither of them have actually managed to stay fit for long enough throughout their whole careers which is a real shame and a right pain in the backside for Arsenal fans :(
 
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