**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

[gazzamcg]

It will depend it Eto'o signs a new contract or not with Barça, that they offered him.

If he want's to stay but doesn't sign the contract, there is zero chance Barça will let him stay only to leave next summer on a free, whilst they could potentially receive a large sum for him.

 

[Tom84]

SO you can't compare goal scoring records at all ever then?

No, it proves nothing.

Firstly I'm not sure, Davies probably did miss some games but he played almost every single last game for them, in HIS position and no he's a pretty damn poor striker, 12 goals doesn't mean a huge amount. THe difference is 9 goals, played in a different position almost every game with no form and a changing team dynamic every single week IS good.

Seriously how blinkered are you? Seriously you're clutching at anything possible now, regardless of whether he scored the goals playing in defence only appearing in 1 out of 15 games in really doesn't mean a toss. He's not even half the player Rooney is regardless of how close the goal scoring stakes between the two were. I also see you've neglected to actually mention the level of opposition that these goals came against? What was it two against West Brom? 1 against Hull? 1 against Bolton? Hardly anything to hold a parade for is it. When he starts doing it against United, Chelsea et all I'll start to take notice.

Don't get me wrong he's a good squad player and one that you can obviously rely on to get you goals against the lesser teams when you want to give your big game players a rest but don't make out he's good enough to start and be a threat against the better teams in the league.

AS for Eduardo not starting ahead of Tevez when he's fit, you're quite literally insane. AS for Berbatov, Berb's is a withdrawn striker and plays best with a small fast smart finisher ahead of him, Rooney played better on the wing than upfront, he might not of accepted it, but he's a withdrawn playmaker, not a RVN finisher upfront. the second striker spot for large parts of the season was between Tevez, Macheda and Wellbeck, of which Eduardo is so easily better that its a joke.

People are so utterly ridiculous with how they interpret whats said. By me saying he'd have started(if fit) at Utd, you take that to mean instantly that i'd drop both ROoney and Berbatov, when i would do neither and said neither, but somehow you use that fact as an argument to prove me wrong.

So effectively what you're saying is that Eduardo is good enough to be in a squad of United's, Chelsea's or Liverpool's? Well if that's the case then yes of course he is but having said that Dossena is a member of Liverpool's squad so again it's hardly something to shout about.

Oh and Rooney being at his best when played out wide really shows how little you know about football

 

[FrankJH]

It will depend it Eto'o signs a new contract or not with Barça, that they offered him.

If he want's to stay but doesn't sign the contract, there is zero chance Barça will let him stay only to leave next summer on a free, whilst they could potentially receive a large sum for him.

Not really - as Eto'o doesnt actually need to agree to go anywhere unless he wants to, Barca cant actually do anything apart from ask if he is interested in going to X club, and go from there.

Barca cant force him to sign an extention, or sign for another club - but they (obviously) have to keep on paying him until next summer if he doesnt sign elsewhere

Im sure bigger clubs will come in for him at some point

Macheda and Welbeck played less than 15 games between them - by NO means is that "large portions of the season" (and even then a few games of Welbeck's was out wide), of which ten of those where cup games (ie unlikely to actually be competing with Rooney / Berba etc for places)

 

[jakeke]

As an Arsenal fan I'd say Eduardo is our best striker, awesome movement, technique, finishing and awareness. I don't know how much everybody rates Adebayor or RvP etc. but from what I've seen Eduardo has the potential to be the best striker at the club.

I also think that Rooney is over-rated by Man Utd fans but meh, what do I know!

 

[gazzamcg]

Not really - as Eto'o doesnt actually need to agree to go anywhere unless he wants to, Barca cant actually do anything apart from ask if he is interested in going to X club, and go from there.

Barca cant force him to sign an extention, or sign for another club - but they (obviously) have to keep on paying him until next summer if he doesnt sign elsewhere

Im sure bigger clubs will come in for him at some point

I know what you are saying but I disagree. If he doesn't sign a new contract with Barça this month I would be surprised if he is still there at the start of the season even if he want's to stay.

Business wise it wouldn't make sense for Barça to risk him going on a free.Or possibly Barça wan't to start fresh with someone else.

They will force him out.

 

[jakeke]

Barca wanted him out last summer too, he's obviously quite stubborn.

 

[fez]

All I know is that bendtner is rubbish. Eduardo seems very good and I rate arshevin massively. Arsenal are just lacking a few player to be able to compete for the league. Mainly really good strikers and a really solid midfielder.

I dont think I have ever seen bendtner play well. He is the epitome of all mouth no trousers.

 

[gazzamcg]

Barca wanted him out last summer too, he's obviously quite stubborn.

Well, there were reports Guardiola changed his mind and wanted him to stay with the attitude Eto'o was showing in pre-season training or something.

The biggest factor now is he is on a free next summer if no deal with Barça is done this summer.

Football is a business and Barça can't afford to lose out on him going on a free.

 

[jakeke]

All I know is that bendtner is rubbish. Eduardo seems very good and I rate arshevin massively. Arsenal are just lacking a few player to be able to compete for the league. Mainly really good strikers and a really solid midfielder.

I dont think I have ever seen bendtner play well. He is the epitome of all mouth no trousers.

Watch him more then :/? He's had several very good games this season, you sound as though you're somebody who hasn't really watched Arsenal this season, Arsenal need strikers? Really? RvP/Ade/Eduardo/Vela/Bendner/Walcott not enough?

 

[jakeke]

Well, there were reports Guardiola changed his mind and wanted him to stay with the attitude Eto'o was showing in pre-season training or something.

The biggest factor now is he is on a free next summer if no deal with Barça is done this summer.

Football is a business and Barça can't afford to lose out on him going on a free.

Maybe they'll have to up that contract they offered him then

 

[Tom84]

As an Arsenal fan I'd say Eduardo is our best striker, awesome movement, technique, finishing and awareness. I don't know how much everybody rates Adebayor or RvP etc. but from what I've seen Eduardo has the potential to be the best striker at the club.

I also think that Rooney is over-rated by Man Utd fans but meh, what do I know!

I'd say by a clear distance Van Persie is your best striker, for me (and this is the main reason why I'd love to see him at United) he's unlike any other striker in the world and as such can do things that no other striker in the world can do. Obviously I dont watch Arsenal as much as you do and from what other Arsenal supporters have told me RVP has a tendency to go missing in games but from what I see of him he'd be right at the top of my list of dream signings. That goal against Liverpool last season is one that I could watch over and over again.

Adebayor is a tough one, he's kinda like a poor man's Drogba in terms of ability and to boot also seems to have an attitude where he thinks he's the one calling the tune, like Henry did when he was at Arsenal. Only difference is Henry was the best player in the world when he was at Arsenal so could get away with the hissy fit's and dirty looks to his team mates, Adebayor needs to realise he's not at that level and never will be so ultimately needs to graft a bit more for his team.

If I were an Arsenal fan I dont think I'd be too worried about the latter leaving this season as with RVP, Ashavin and Walcott you've got more than enough

 

[bloodline76]

All I know is that bendtner is rubbish. Eduardo seems very good and I rate arshevin massively. Arsenal are just lacking a few player to be able to compete for the league. Mainly really good strikers and a really solid midfielder.

I dont think I have ever seen bendtner play well. He is the epitome of all mouth no trousers.

You dont KNOW bendtner is rubbish. You THINK he is. Doesnt mean he is, and coming out with comments like that really makes your OPINION respected

We need a decent Midfielder with some presense rather than a striker. Someone to grab the game by the neck when things go wrong.

The strikers will perform when they get the ball more.

 

[CliffyG]

I'd rate RvP higher too, by a long way. Eduardo has played very few games and before he broke his leg he wasn't exactly on top form either, scored a couple of nicely taken goals but had missed a few sitters too. When he gets a full season under his belt we'll be able to see. That being said he's still a starter next to RvP for me.

Ade was excellent the previous season, i think he started thinking he was better than he was and just didn't put the effort in. If he can buck his ideas I'd still have him as 3rd choice although I'm not hugely fussed if he leaves. Bentdner is better on the ball and more energetic than Ade but he seems very wasteful in front of goal. He's not very effective as a lone target man either considering his height.

Vela is going to be godlike soon, prob not this season but by the next one I'm sure he'll be a starter.



Apparently Gilberto has told Melo to come to Arsenal if we are interested, only saw glimpses of him during the confed cup so not sure how good he is at all.

 

[Tummy]

I watched Arsenal a lot last season, Bendtner was consistently poor and missed a lot of chances. There were two or three games which summed this up very well, where he was just missing chance after chance. I accept that every player has bad games, or off days (I'm used to it watching Sheffield Wednesday) but Bendtner is consistently off color. There is quite often no excuse for him missing the amount of chances Arsenal are creating for him.
The thing is people see match of the day, which shows the 3 misses and nothing else, he was excellent in his hold up play, bringing other people into the game and everything else he did, defensive headers, etc, etc. 3 misses within a few minutes doesn't ever seem great, but people see that and assume the whole 90 minutes was like that when its a completely and utterly incorrect view. I've not based my opinion on Bendtner over one or two games, he's was poor from start to end.

Eboue ? since when were we talking about him, but since you asked. He's pretty decent. Nothing special, not a world beater.

Rooney is not a winger. He's a striker. A winger, is for example Nani, or Malouda, Giggs when he was quick... not Rooney.

Bendtner having another season ? well proves that Wenger is a lot more forgiving then me, or many other managers.

 

[fez]

Do people genuinely think that bendtner is good enough to be one of arsenals main strikers. Oh and having 50 strikers doesnt mean that you dont need lots of them to be good strikers.

What is the difference between arsenal, man utd, chelsea and liverpool. All 4 apart from arsenal have got at least one very good striker who sticks in a lot of goals. Im sure bendtner is plenty good enough though

I have watched arsenal on at least 15 occasions this year, not all of them he featured in but when he did he looked poor. His main area that needs work is his finishing.

Bendtner isnt a rubbish player, sorry if that got your back up but seriously, he is rubbish compared to the club he is at and some of the players around him. I like watching arsenal, hate wenger but love the way they can play but bendtner is sub par.

Can you think of any of the top 4 who would play him at all, even as a reserve?

 

[Tummy]

You contradict yourself. You say Bendtner is a striker and strikers are supposed to score. Then say Rooney had a successful season scoring 10 goals lol

Hate to see his bad season

Jeffers scored his in under 21 level, Ed scores his against world class teams. Bit of a difference.

Was trying to get at Bendtner has had a poor season due to not putting away the chances he was given. He may of scored X amount of goals, but it really should have been a lot more.

The Rooney thing, was DM saying that strikers are unable to play out of position and not score, Rooney played out wide left and still was able to score.

International stats, are often miss leading, they're not consistent enough until you get a World Cup. It's far better to judge a player at a domestic level then internationally. At domestic level you get to see them over maybe 40 games. Not one every other month, in friendlies that don't mean much more then a run out, or every four years in a World Cup.

 

[Tummy]

Do people genuinely think that bendtner is good enough to be one of arsenals main strikers. Oh and having 50 strikers doesnt mean that you dont need lots of them to be good strikers.

What is the difference between arsenal, man utd, chelsea and liverpool. All 4 apart from arsenal have got at least one very good striker who sticks in a lot of goals. Im sure bendtner is plenty good enough though

I have watched arsenal on at least 15 occasions this year, not all of them he featured in but when he did he looked poor. His main area that needs work is his finishing.

Bendtner isnt a rubbish player, sorry if that got your back up but seriously, he is rubbish compared to the club he is at and some of the players around him. I like watching arsenal, hate wenger but love the way they can play but bendtner is sub par.

Can you think of any of the top 4 who would play him at all, even as a reserve?

He did very well for Birmingham.
Bendtner isn't a top four striker.

He can't compare to Drogba (yes he dives and is a ****, but when he's on form he's unplayable), Torres, Rooney / Berbatov, Anelka, *John Carrew?*
Bendtner wouldn't get near the Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Aston Villa starting line up. Maybe not even Spurs.

DM can't see Bendtners faults, his biggest being he's not very good.

 

[fez]

DM can't see Bendtners faults, his biggest being he's not very good.

Classic, hit the nail on the head; there is only so long you can wait while a playerisnt performing before you have to get rid of him. He would be ok at a mid table side but arsenal should have better.

 

[Tummy]

I'd rate RvP higher too, by a long way. Eduardo has played very few games and before he broke his leg he wasn't exactly on top form either, scored a couple of nicely taken goals but had missed a few sitters too. When he gets a full season under his belt we'll be able to see. That being said he's still a starter next to RvP for me.

Ade was excellent the previous season, i think he started thinking he was better than he was and just didn't put the effort in. If he can buck his ideas I'd still have him as 3rd choice although I'm not hugely fussed if he leaves. Bentdner is better on the ball and more energetic than Ade but he seems very wasteful in front of goal. He's not very effective as a lone target man either considering his height.

Vela is going to be godlike soon, prob not this season but by the next one I'm sure he'll be a starter.

Apparently Gilberto has told Melo to come to Arsenal if we are interested, only saw glimpses of him during the confed cup so not sure how good he is at all.

I'm really looking forward to seeing Vela play more for Arsenal, he's a very talented player. I'm quite a big fan.

Robin, needs to stay fit for a season, as does Eduardo. Robin is a class act, not really an out and out striker, he needs someone to play with in my opinion. Arsenal need a poacher, a real old fashioned fox in the box, just someone who scores. Nothing fancy.

 

[Tummy]

You dont KNOW bendtner is rubbish. You THINK he is. Doesnt mean he is, and coming out with comments like that really makes your OPINION respected

We need a decent Midfielder with some presense rather than a striker. Someone to grab the game by the neck when things go wrong.

The strikers will perform when they get the ball more.

Gattuso ?

Would love to see more of him

Arsenal, need a center back as well, you need a real goal scorer, as you have done for a few years, a tough tackling midfielder, who's got massive balls, a good, strong big center back.

Arsenal haven't addressed these problems over the past few years, failing to replace Campbell was a big thing, and go back a few years, you had a world class midfield. (Y)

You'll sort it out, and when you do, you'll be back to challenging for the top spot, Arsenal are a few players short in my opinion of being a great team.