No one is going to disagree with that, even Utd fans said as much. The key games where we have failed is because of the differences in the centre of our midfield. Not as some people would believe on the wings or up front.
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No one is going to disagree with that, even Utd fans said as much. The key games where we have failed is because of the differences in the centre of our midfield. Not as some people would believe on the wings or up front.
Rafa has given Barca permission to bid for Masch. £17m for him being reported.
double that wouldnt be out of place imo, £17m is give away price - sounds very strange indeed considering the supposed precarious nature of Alonso's motivation to stay
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Ha that Owen brochure is ridiculous...
Young Commited and Devoted are definitely not 3 selling points for him
Actually, Charismatic.. no... Cool.......... oh jesus
Young Commited and Devoted are definitely not 3 selling points for him
Actually, Charismatic.. no... Cool.......... oh jesus
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Rafa has given Barca permission to bid for Masch. £17m for him being reported.
Pretty sure we're not going to let him go for less than we paid for him.
Tom84 doesn't agree with you. Strength in depth he calls your midfield
Certain areas we do and certain areas we don't. I think a fully fit Hargreaves is as good as anyone in the premiership for that position and he think he could compliment Carrick well.
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Carrick wasnt bought as a goal scorer, even at Spurs he wasnt that frequent, so its a pointless comparison.
Last season Ronaldo got 6 assists - a MASSIVE amount no one can argue withwhile completing 75% or more of our attacking moves, not to mention the huge % of free kicks just completely wasted rather than actually trying to set another player up.
he completed 75% or more of your attacking moves? what a load of absolute tosh. 6 assists, without a poacher type striker on the pitch, isn't surprising is it. Yet when there were poachers willing to stay in the box, he got 20, we went through this, there are maybe 5 other players to date that have gotten 20 or above. Not getting an assist doesn't mean he didn't play an important role in the build up to other goals. AS for tracking back, I didn't say that did I, I said defending corners and freekicks. Ronaldo is back for every single one and almost every single game you'll hear his name as being the one clearing the ball with a header in his own box.
As for freekicks, you're acting like if he put them on the box, you'd score at least one free kick a game, life isn't like that. There is no player in the world that will get, via a cross/pass/shot, more than 1 goal in every 5 attempts, at best. I'm sorry but there's hundreds of players that shoot from freekicks, theres hundreds of freekicks taken in the premiership every weekend, and only a couple go in, yet if it wasn't for Ronaldo Utd would score them every week.
I also didn't mention Carricks scoring, at all, however I did mention assists, you didn't manage to answer how in that first fantastic season where you won the title again, that Ronaldo had far more assists than Carrick, in all his selfishness.
Stop being bitter, the team will be worse, the midfield worse, and Carrick, Anderson, Nani will NOT improve just because he's gone.
Without a doubt - unfortunate his fitness is so questionable
If Barca get Masch - would Toure be a good (pretty versatile) option to go for anyway?
(I personally think so but whether Barca would let him go anyway is unlikely I would have thought)
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Rafa has given Barca permission to bid for Masch. £17m for him being reported.
I very much doubt we would let him go for that
What's there to be bitter about ??? Our supposed worse team could still end up being significantly better than your best team. Nothing to see hear, move along............
I honestly dont know why people cannot just accept manu will play differently and could still be a better side.
Otherwise they still havent replaced Keane, still haven't got a shot stopper as good as Peter S, haven't got 4 forwards like Cole Yorke Sheringham and Ole. Haven't got a guy to deliver like Beckham.
All this talk of replacing players when they get injured, well no one has that much depth available to be able to replace the stars with like for like.
I'd still bet Manu score more goals next year than they did this year.
Tom84 doesn't agree with you. Strength in depth he calls your midfield
Tom84 might be on his own in his view. Most Fans and people who watch a lot of Manchester United, can see that they're missing a few players. Hopefully the 80 million from Ronaldo, won't be spent in a knee jerk way, but Sir Alex will use it to bring in players to strengthen were United need it, midfield, full back, up front.
Anderson, is good, but some way of being a first choice, Carrick is alright when he's played in the right position (not trying to play two positions like the season just gone) Hargreaves should be a first choice, probably with Carrick, but Hargreaves is struggling to be fit. Scholes and Giggs are bit part players. Could maybe play Macheda or Welbeck in midfield, and everything "be reet"
£17 million is a lot of money.
The transfer market is over priced and has been for a few years. Personally, I think for the best part of 20 million pounds, you should get a world class player.
Mash, probably isn't the best in that position but he will be there or there about in a few years.
£17 million to spend on another average full back ?
Common sense breaks out on the internet Huzzah !!!!!!!!
As I said previously people who are calling Ronaldo selfish are referring to his final season and not his entire tenure at United
As for the others not improving how the hell do you know they wont?
That's the problem.
Yes he did - EVERYTINNG practically ended with Ronaldo time and time again (one of the main reasons why assists is so low, because he was the one trying to score
I would happily bet anyONE £100 that Ronaldo had well over 3/4 of the chances for Man Utd - and everyone else in the squad shared the other 25%, he had so many chances
He got 20 that season only because the whole team wasnt focused around him - its as simple as that. It was also unrealistic to assume that many assists (as the amount of goals he scored in one particular season) is repeatable by anyone.
and how many goals against has he been responsible for when not tracking back - of course you dont even bother considering that angle at all!!!
I would still say its more likely Evans/Rio or vidic getting in the final header, and on few occasions its Ronaldo and thats why its memorable because its an attacker.
No not at all - but at least there would be variety, and teams wouldnt know what to expect. Everyone knows that he will go for a shot and wont pass it more than a foot sideways
There where countless times last season where Utd had a better placed person in or around the box than Ronaldo but he still took a shot rather than pass it, which even just testing the goalie would have been better for the TEAM
Seeing as Carrick is a deeplaying midfielder more often than not, its highly unlikely he will ever have a large number of assists - however how many crucial passes he strings together for vital goals is a completely different question
Im not being bitter - Im just stating that you are plainly talking ****
Im GLAD he has gone, and there are plenty of my posts through last summer and during the season that back that up